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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #105 on: November 17, 2014, 08:54:38 AM »
Looks great!  I hope to see it in person some day.

Agreed

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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #106 on: November 17, 2014, 10:20:57 AM »
Looks great!  I hope to see it in person some day.
Agreed
No worries guys, I'll be selling tickets soon.  :P


Once it's fully going and stable for a while, perhaps an informal gathering is in order.
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #107 on: November 17, 2014, 08:28:19 PM »
Where things stand - I'm going to have to drain the tank down to 1/3 full this coming weekend. I need to install some extra magnets to hold the background to the overflow nicely and "Water Weld" I've learned doesn't stick well at all when applied to a wet surface.

I should also have the gate valves by then. I experimented with using my hand to choke back the drain flow to raise the overflow level and it was actually quiet!

I'm not sure to what extent I'm actually going to cycle the tank. I haven't done that in years! Instead I'll run some sponges from established tanks in the sump for 1-2 months (plus I have some media chilling in established tanks for the last month or so that will also get swapped).
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #108 on: November 19, 2014, 03:41:15 PM »
It looks really good Ron.
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #109 on: November 23, 2014, 08:25:05 PM »
I've been trying to avoid sick coworkers all fall at work, but they finally got me. Not a great weekend overall, but I did manage to get some work done on the tank this afternoon and am happy to report, it's nearly GO TIME now that the sump is done!  ;D

I got proper bulkheads on the drains from the tank into the mechanical filter. I also got a gate valve on the syphon line so I could adjust the height of the overflow and the noise is greatly reduced from the water spilling in. From left to right, return line, syphon drain, durso drain, filter emergency drain, and the emergency tank drain.


I also got the third wet/dry tower done:


The new one is a little larger than the first two to take advantage of the extra space. Since it sits over the pump, I cut the lower front  for the water discharge rather than straight through the bottom, as the first two are setup. The idea was to avoid turbulence/bubbles being sucked into the pump, adding noise and/or causing bubbles in the main tank.


Each tower has an uppermost section of bioballs and a lower section of Poret form pieces (large chunks I had left over from a past hamburgermatten filter project. I keep finding differing opinions on how much biomedia is necessary for a setup like mine, so I just tried to fill it up as full as convenient. Overall, the wet/dry media volume is ~22 gallons. The Poret foam serving as the mechanical filtraiton is nearly another 5 gallons. I also have a 2-3 gallons worth of ceramic media I'd put in currently running tanks to help jump start the cycle which I'll add as well when I move the first fish in. I'd like to think it's more than enough in the end.

When running, both layers are out of the water. When the pump is off, during a power outage for example, I placed a syphon break on the return line in the tank such that it'll back syphon and fill the sump to a height which will keep the lower 1/2 of the wet/dry towers submerged, keeping the bacteria alive.


Right now the water temperature is about 65F and the heaters are running. I'm not sure how long I'm going to wait before moving fish into it - maybe until next weekend. As I mentioned, I have media right now in running tanks with bacteria on it, plus I could run some existing sponge filters on a temporary basis in the sump as well.

Things that still need to be done eventually:
1. Finish trim on the front side of the display now that I know where the water level resides.
2. Think about what to fill the gap with between the tank and the wall to cut down on noise if possible.
3. Add more lighting
4. Cover(s) for the tank
5. Cover for the sump
6. Shelving in the sump area to make up for the storage the sump and tank displaced.
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #110 on: November 27, 2014, 10:05:08 AM »
Getting the tank up to temperature with 900W of heaters took ~1.5 days, LOL. I'm sure this is going to show on the electric bill. Since then the temperature has been holding just fine and the heaters aren't on all the time.

I added some more LED lighting to the tank. I went with BeamsWork LED fixtures, 1 48" for the right portion of the tank and a second 24" fixture for the left portion of the tank. I thought it was cheaper to go this route than to put a larger fixture across the entire length of the tank, plus it doesn't waste light across the portion occupied by the overflow chamber.

I also moved some established media and started stocking the tank. So far phase 1 stocking is complete with:

C. boryleri 2m/2f
C. euchilus 1m
P. phenochilus 3m
N. livingstonii 1m/2f
S. fryeri 1m
N. venustus 1m
E. anagenys 1m
P. sp. "Taiwan Reef" 1m
P. taeniolatus "Tangerine Tiger" 1m

So that's 16 in there so far.

My replacement pads for the algae magnet got delayed and there's a slight haze of diatoms across most of the front pane, so no pictures just yet. Hopefully next week.  :)
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2014, 10:39:18 AM »
Simply Amazing. I build a 4 foot tall by 4 foot long by 3 foot tall pond/ tank using wood and super thick pond liner in my room when I was in high school. Also walkout basement so cold rest straight on the cement floor.I raised koi. Top down fish anyways. Would have been sweet to have something like this. Any problems with the humidity?

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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2014, 12:02:35 PM »
There isn't a problem with humidity, yet, but it's certainly noticeable. In the room from which the tank is viewed, the opposing wall has a wood furnace that I use as my primary heat for the house, which normally makes the house pretty dry during the winter.



If I keep the door between the rooms closed, the windows get moist, but otherwise it's alright. During the summer I'm hoping to just open the windows if it gets bad.

I'm also working on better covers for everything, without covering the wet/dry filter too well. Right now I've got some random styrofoam sheets over the tank openings and two across either side of the sump opening. I'm hoping to build a nicer fitting lid for the sump to help keep the heat in and limit the moisture lost if possible.

I know what you mean about a cold basement floor too. I built a short platform of 2x6s to help insulate between the floor and the tank. Doing a quick touch of the floor verses the wood, verses the sump, it's certainly working.
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2014, 12:32:13 PM »
Just use clear corrugated roofing to make tops holds up really well and keeps humidity down.

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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #114 on: November 27, 2014, 12:39:47 PM »
Come on Ron don't leave us hanging, let' see some pics of the fish in there! 8)
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2014, 12:39:27 PM »
Let's see some pics with fish homeboy!! Those Haps probably feel like they've been set free!

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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2014, 01:24:28 PM »
Peer pressure.  :P
Here are a few quick shots.





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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2014, 02:26:39 PM »
Bout time slacker :P

That looks GREAT Ron I love it. I bet you are pleased as can be now that there are fish in it. Nice looking fish too. I always liked Livinstonii and Placidochromis electra. And is that a big Venustus I see as well? Looks like some nice color on him.
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2014, 02:40:07 PM »
Bout time slacker :P

That looks GREAT Ron I love it. I bet you are pleased as can be now that there are fish in it. Nice looking fish too. I always liked Livinstonii and Placidochromis electra. And is that a big Venustus I see as well? Looks like some nice color on him.
It's hard to look at it and not smile. No P. electra in there - P. phenochilus is what I believe you meant. The venustus is a new addition from the last MCA auction and typically looks pretty good. I'm not sure what's up with the livingstonii male - this past spring and summer he was a solid blue, but him and the C. euchilus kept exhanging who was tank boss and both aren't as colorful as they've been in the past, but both are healthy and look decent. The fish look good, but should still color up better in time. Full stock list at this time was posted in reply #110.

I'm looking forward to the addition of my clown loaches in a few weeks - should add some nice orange and red to the colors of the tank.
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Re: One Tank To Rule Them All
« Reply #119 on: November 28, 2014, 02:47:11 PM »
I see the larger  phenochilus above them, but those two below him right on the sand bed sure looks like electra (aka deep water hap) to me? ??? http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1204
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