New help with diagnosis

[Hobbiest]

This Lithobate male was moved to a brand new tank. An OB peacock male went with him both from a different tank. I never saw agression but he looks very beaten up. I moved the Peacock out and I and doing a water change now to help the Lithobates as he is one on my favorites. Does this look agression related or is it a disease. I hope he lives. Doesn't look good though.
I think it was aggression. But now the damage may be done. I changed some water. Added more aeration. Turned tank light off. We'll see I guess.







This happened from yesterday til today. Maybe even from this morning til now.

[danielratti]

Yup aggression

[Regalblue]

Looks beaten to me.

[Hobbiest]

Bought some Melafix and added it. If he lives no more chances with other tank mates.

[Regalblue]

Melafix is snake oil.  Just keep the water as clean as possible & watch for secondary infection(s)

[danotaylor]

Add 1tbsp/10gal of aquarium or sea salt to stop fungus growing where he has been descaled. He should recover fine if he is left alone...

[Hobbiest]

Thank you. It will be touch n go for a day or so. Another big scare and he will call it a day. Hoping the dark tonight doesn't do it. Just changed 10 more gallons. If he is alive in the morning ..... I give him better odds. OB Peacock man. Think he killed my other Lithobates male. Thought is was the Afra.

[danielratti]

Salt is about the same as the snake oil just keep the water clean and lights off and he will heal just fine.

[danotaylor]

As a health care professional I have to disagree with the comment that "salt is like snake oil". It is a well known scientific fact that salt creates an environment where bacteria & fungus struggle to multiply, and will therefore effectively eliminate their capacity to reproduce and cause harmful secondary infections.
Salt baths, gargling, cleansing wounds with saline are all still part of effective wound management in health care today.
I agree that good water quality and a well maitained aquarium is vital in preventing secondary infections as well, but in my opinion and experience salt has been highly beneficial as a piece of the healing process in both humans (25yrs as an RN) and fishes over the past 35 years in the hobby.
Just my 2 pennies worth

[mibwb]

If we're talking "snake oil" try Stress Coat or why not Aloe Vera....lately I've even heard Hemp Oil. There are plenty of options as there are fish. Common Sense says clean water and rest.   

[Marty]

Stress Coat works.

[Hobbiest]

He died. I should have kept the light on for him overnight. Seems like the dark can just make a severely distressed fish spin out. And also I am not 100% sold on Melafix being snake oil. Tea Tree oil does have healing and helpful properties and that is one of it's ingredients. If it does all it claims maybe not. Anyway he was a beaute. I just took him out of the Mbuna tank as I saw he was isolating himself. I had another male that got beat up and then died from being in there. I always thought it was an Afra male or the Lithobates male that did it. So I moved the OB Peacock along with him to keep him from harassing the one Lithobates female. Well turns out I had the perpetrator right in the tank with him. Damn.

[Kulasik]

Add 1tbsp/10gal of aquarium or sea salt to stop fungus growing where he has been descaled. He should recover fine if he is left alone...

Would salt help with fin rot as well if you say it stops fungus?

[danielratti]

Not exactly it's a bacteria and where to start with that is changing the environment the fish is in more a less water changes

[Hobbiest]

Melafix is snake oil.  Just keep the water as clean as possible & watch for secondary infection(s)

And just fyi and to be helpful Melafix really does work for some things. For example fungus. It gets rid of it. And tea tree oil IS beneficial for open wounds. Wether Melafix regenerates fins and scales faster is debateable. But it definitely is not just placebo. Just my .02 I have seen it kill fungus.