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Offline bikehead90

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Any experience with monster fish?
« on: February 11, 2015, 09:59:06 PM »
This may sound stupid, but I've been planning out my dream tank. All I know is I want at least one or  silver arowana and  two Oscars. So right off the bat, I know I'm looking at ~300g. Also I know there's an order to keeping areos with oscars. My question is do any of you guys know any other tank mates for this combo? I was thinking MAYBE a red tail catfish. Thoughts?

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 02:03:54 AM »
Red tails get huge (around the 5' mark)  Anything that can fit in their mouths will be eaten, and they are messy eaters.  All this adds up to not being a good choice for a 300 gallon aquarium.

Perhaps rays, or peacock bass?

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2015, 07:48:02 AM »
I had a TSN once in my younger days. I knew better, but purchased it in a moment of weakness. Cool fish, but grew really fast, was expensive to feed, and got rid of it after only 10 months because I knew it was going to have problems housing a fish that should grow 36"-40".

I wouldn't keep any fish anymore in a tank that has the potential to grow more than the width of the tank and feel the tank should be at least twice as long as it the minimum width to allow for swimming room.

As a better alternative, if I were to take that route again, the lima shovel nose is much more fitting for being kept in the home aquarium.

I also had a silver arowana once upon a time. They are very, very skittish IME and you had to be sure it saw you coming so it wouldn't freak out. Mine was around the 20" mark when once night it just decided to jump for no good reason. I had heavy glass lids on the tank, so it hit the lid and broke it's back. It couldn't swim. If people think it's hard to euthanize hybrid fry, try doing it to a large,m personable fish that you've kept for a number of years. I wouldn't keep one again in a tank with a lid. Instead use a mesh enclosure around the top so it has some give in the event the fish jumps hard.

In the end, I also think it's cooler to have friends with MONSTER fish than it is to keep them yourself. They are fun to see from time to time, but don't do a lot (watchability over time isn't as good as a tank full of small, active fish), require a huge tank, and cost a lot to feed.
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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2015, 11:35:27 AM »
Ron, I knew they were jumpers, but I didn't know they were that powerful. My LFS has a pair of them right now, and if I could house them I would. What sort of tank mates did you keep the aeros with?

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2015, 12:41:43 PM »
I have had snakeheads, shovelnose (lima), clown knives and arrowana a long time ago. I liked the shovelnose and clown knives the best.  The snakeheads were the fastest growing things I have ever kept....nonstop eating machines.

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2015, 03:56:25 PM »
I've kept a silver arowana with BIG cichlids before. (Oscar, Jaguar, Vieja species and the like.) Really enjoyed the movement and feeding behavior. But like Ron indicated they love to jump and even when you think you've got the lid heavy enough for them not to move, they can find a way. The bigger ones hit with such force it scared the hell out of me a couple of times. lol

After the second time of finding mine on the floor, I rehomed him to a buddy of mine that keeps him outside in a pond in the summer and in a covered smaller/heated pond in his garage in the winter.

I really have mixed feelings about fish that get this size and/or have specialized eating habits (like jumping up in the air to grab birds). Should they even be imported for people to stuff in 55 gallon tanks?

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2015, 04:08:10 PM »
From what it sounds like, it's feeding these monsters that's the hard part (other than the jumping). What kind of stuff would I have to feed em?

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 06:30:43 PM »
Mine ate mostly other fish.  They are useful for getting rid of culls, or the 4000th convict that you happen to have:)
I fed rosy reds, goldfish, crayfish, bugs, frogs, earthworms, basically just about anything.  Live food gets costly so I went to
a large pellet food and fish chunks.

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Re: Any experience with monster fish?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 08:00:39 PM »
My LFS has a pair of them right now, and if I could house them I would. What sort of tank mates did you keep the aeros with?
I always kept mine by himself. I didn't want other fish to freak him out or result in his fins getting damaged.

From what it sounds like, it's feeding these monsters that's the hard part (other than the jumping). What kind of stuff would I have to feed em?
I trained the aro to eat pellets at a young age. Fed him NLS and raw shrimps for treats.

The catfish I fed small bluegills to. Once winter came I bought the cheapest saltwater fish I could find at the store.

If you're feeding live/raw foods, ideally you want to feed freshwater fish with saltwater foods and vice versa. The idea being that disease or parasites that might be on the food won't be as likely to infect the host (freshwater vs saltwater).
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