Author Topic: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...  (Read 6144 times)

Offline Joefish

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 74
  • Fall down, Get the F back up!
    • 49015
Re: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2014, 10:06:57 PM »
I sold at least 72 H. Minkleyi into this club and they all died but non hobbyist raised a pair that will spawn soon?  I don't think many of you are as good as you think.   Hello! the rift lakes are "great freshwater lakes"


Biggest point:  Who uses club auctions as a source for breeding stock?  Especially Angels!  By buying your stock at an auction you are starting with someones seconds.  Nope, they sold seconds to the lfs, you got thirds at best......

Call me an ass but its the truth.....

 

Offline Regalblue

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5971
    • Livonia
    • MCA
Re: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2014, 01:47:24 AM »

Offline Ron

  • African Cichlid Aficionado
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2739
    • Howell, MI
Re: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2014, 06:28:02 AM »
Biggest point:  Who uses club auctions as a source for breeding stock?  Especially Angels!
Are you trying to imply I bought angels with intentions of breeding them? If so, you're absolutely wrong...
Quote
By buying your stock at an auction you are starting with someones seconds.  Nope, they sold seconds to the lfs, you got thirds at best......
While that may be true in some cases, it's not in all cases. I used to deal fish to the LFS, but got tired of it and just breed a few things as a hobby from time to time. Quality fish get sold and anything less doesn't.
"All men are equal before fish."
- Herbert Hoover
Planted 100 Gallon Tank
550 Gallon Hap Tank

Offline Marty

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1855
    • Macomb zip 48044
Re: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 01:03:45 PM »
I sold at least 72 H. Minkleyi into this club and they all died but non hobbyist raised a pair that will spawn soon?  I don't think many of you are as good as you think.   Hello! the rift lakes are "great freshwater lakes"


Biggest point:  Who uses club auctions as a source for breeding stock?  Especially Angels!  By buying your stock at an auction you are starting with someones seconds.  Nope, they sold seconds to the lfs, you got thirds at best......

Call me an ass but its the truth.....

What does your sale of the H. minkleyi or their unfortunate end have to do with this topic?


Regarding the purchase of breeding stock at an auction (whether you're talking about angels or anything else for that matter) I'd have to say that's a pretty sweeping generalization.  I've seen spectacular angels for sale at the auctions, and not everyone raises fish with the intention of keeping the best, selling the mediocre stuff to the store, and dumping the rest at the auctions. 

I don't know about your side of the state, but we have several stores with owners/staff that actually know what they're looking at when they buy fish.  Do you think they're going to buy crap?

This is not to say that you shouldn't look at what your bidding on, but the volunteers do try to point out or pull the substandard fish.

Offline lohachata

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 104
    • Cleveland
Re: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2014, 09:04:52 PM »
about 40 or so years ago when i first joined the CAS (Cleveland Aquarium Society) one of our member had an ad in the newspaper selling "rare" black angels.....so i went over to buy some...those fish had great finnage and amazing intense solid black color.....but the looked as if somebody had bitten a chunk out of their head just forward of the dorsal...he was charging $5 each for quarter size fish...the notch did not sit well with me even though i was pretty new to the hobby so i didn't buy any.....he had them advertised as "rare saddleback black angels"(in 1970 $5 was a lot for an angel)
i called my uncle who had gotten me into the hobby and had been breeding fish for years.....he explained that the saddleback was a defect resulting from inbreeding..the guy knew it but sold them anyhow....

i am with the others...privately talk to the guy and let him know..

Offline four_by_ken

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2138
    • 48002
Re: What would you do? Fry --> deformed fish ...
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2014, 09:04:50 AM »
Whatever happened here?