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Offline Marty

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2014, 02:53:38 PM »
My personal thought on this is that if I have a fish from a specific location, I will sell it as such and not mix it with other fish of the same species unless they are from the same location.

If I have fish that I don't have a collection point for, I would list them without a collection point and not mix them with fish that do have a known collection point.

I look at it as an issue of truth in advertising.  I want you to know everything I know when you're buying fish from me.

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2014, 04:21:44 PM »
My personal thought on this is that if I have a fish from a specific location, I will sell it as such and not mix it with other fish of the same species unless they are from the same location.

If I have fish that I don't have a collection point for, I would list them without a collection point and not mix them with fish that do have a known collection point.

I look at it as an issue of truth in advertising.  I want you to know everything I know when you're buying fish from me.
Yep, that's definitely the reputable way to handle this issue. I'm the same and I think there are plenty of us. As danielratti alluded to, those who don't just likely don't know better. Hopefully they read this thread and learn why it's important.  :)
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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2014, 04:35:05 PM »
If you do want to get rid of hybrids I will let people hand feed them to some of my fish. They will come right up and take them. I do take donations of $3 a visit.

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2014, 12:18:59 PM »
If you do want to get rid of hybrids I will let people hand feed them to some of my fish. They will come right up and take them. I do take donations of $3 a visit.

Perhaps at the next board meeting we should discuss purchasing a club shark tank to feed all hybrids to. :P

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2014, 02:43:47 PM »
If you do want to get rid of hybrids I will let people hand feed them to some of my fish. They will come right up and take them. I do take donations of $3 a visit.

Do you have a video of these fish, that would be awesome. My females are in my species only tanks. If this happens in any of my tanks by accidental placement of a female I thought to be a male, my electric blue jack dempsy will take care of them when it gets big enough. Although I will try my best to never have to bother with hybrids. Everyone should have a fish in their fish room to dispose of such occurrences.

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2014, 05:35:08 PM »
I think I'm starting a hybrid only tank. Kind of like a hap and peacock show tank but these fish will be super rare cuz no one can frankenfish like I can. Haha. MCA shark is gonna be fat.
I have about 18,000 rounds of .223 I'm  looking to get rid of, 100 rd bags. 1-4 bags $40 ea, 5-9 bags $38 ea, 10 or more bags $35 ea. I can't put this in the for sale section, its not fish related. No shipping.

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2014, 06:54:18 PM »
I think I'm starting a hybrid only tank. Kind of like a hap and peacock show tank but these fish will be super rare cuz no one can frankenfish like I can. Haha. MCA shark is gonna be fat.
LMAO!  Please post pictures of "frankenfish." 

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2014, 08:06:59 AM »
Mixing species = hybrid agreed.

mixing collection points = not a hybrid but still frowned upon

I'm not saying sell the fry as one collection point or the other, but realize that a Frontosa is a Frontosa regardless of collection point according to the current classifications. We have 6 stripe and & 7 stripe varients, notice the key word here is varients... mean same species thusly if one breeds a Moba with a Burundi, there is no shame is marketing the fry as "6 stripe frontosa," and also if one had the time to breed these slow growing beasts, one might unlock a man made strain with better blues, better Kok growth, tolerance to softer water, etc.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2014, 08:09:12 AM by Stramn »

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2014, 11:22:08 AM »
Mixing species = hybrid agreed.

mixing collection points = not a hybrid but still frowned upon

I'm not saying sell the fry as one collection point or the other, but realize that a Frontosa is a Frontosa regardless of collection point according to the current classifications. We have 6 stripe and & 7 stripe varients, notice the key word here is varients... mean same species thusly if one breeds a Moba with a Burundi, there is no shame is marketing the fry as "6 stripe frontosa," and also if one had the time to breed these slow growing beasts, one might unlock a man made strain with better blues, better Kok growth, tolerance to softer water, etc.
100% false information right there in the portion I made bold.
... I'll take that statement back for the moment based on what linuxrulesusa posted and my inability to find sufficient evidence otherwise. My recollection had been that Brundi were reclassified from Kigoma. Sounds as though it's at best only been a discussion and not an action yet.
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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2014, 03:56:18 PM »
Mixing species = hybrid agreed.

mixing collection points = not a hybrid but still frowned upon

I'm not saying sell the fry as one collection point or the other, but realize that a Frontosa is a Frontosa regardless of collection point according to the current classifications. We have 6 stripe and & 7 stripe varients, notice the key word here is varients... mean same species thusly if one breeds a Moba with a Burundi, there is no shame is marketing the fry as "6 stripe frontosa," and also if one had the time to breed these slow growing beasts, one might unlock a man made strain with better blues, better Kok growth, tolerance to softer water, etc.
100% false information right there in the portion I made bold.

These articles/discussions elaborate more, I think.  I'm not well educated on Frontosa.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=1213

http://www.cyphos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12395

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Re: General African Cichlid Hybrid Discussion
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2014, 08:18:18 PM »
Mixing species = hybrid agreed.

mixing collection points = not a hybrid but still frowned upon

I'm not saying sell the fry as one collection point or the other, but realize that a Frontosa is a Frontosa regardless of collection point according to the current classifications. We have 6 stripe and & 7 stripe varients, notice the key word here is varients... mean same species thusly if one breeds a Moba with a Burundi, there is no shame is marketing the fry as "6 stripe frontosa," and also if one had the time to breed these slow growing beasts, one might unlock a man made strain with better blues, better Kok growth, tolerance to softer water, etc.
100% false information right there in the portion I made bold.

These articles/discussions elaborate more, I think.  I'm not well educated on Frontosa.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=1213

http://www.cyphos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12395
My recollection was that the reclassification had happened for Brundi, but after spending some time looking for newer sources I haven't found anything significantly credible and changed my previous statement to reflect such.

Still, I'd sure as heck never buy a "C. frontosa" that was a mix of 6 and 7 stripes.
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