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Offline bmarine

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Oily-looking on surface??
« on: October 17, 2013, 08:39:43 PM »
On the surface of my 125 gallon, it looks almost like there is oil on it. Anybody know whats up? And how to get rid of it?

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 08:49:06 PM »
On the surface of my 125 gallon, it looks almost like there is oil on it. Anybody know whats up? And how to get rid of it?

Sounds like a protein film.  I'd increase water movement near the surface e.g. with a powerhead or reposition your canister intake or outtake, or add a bubbler or sponge filter to create water movement at the surface.  If you have a wrking HOB filter too that shouldn't happen.  What size filter and what stocking?  Might need a bigger filter.

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 09:07:52 PM »
I have a penguin biowheel 150 hob, and a fluval FX5. Currently my stock is 3 red empress (3" each), 4 lemon jakes (3" each), and a bn pleco.

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 10:35:22 PM »
I have a penguin biowheel 150 hob, and a fluval FX5. Currently my stock is 3 red empress (3" each), 4 lemon jakes (3" each), and a bn pleco.

With that stocking the FX5 should be more than adequate.  The Penguin 150 is more for a 30 gallon tank, I believe, so I'm not sure it's doing much good getting water movement at the surface, just not enough power IMO especially on a presumably 6' tank.  If you want a HOB plus the FX5, I'd go for an Aquaclear 110 in the middle and then the FX5 intake one end and outtake the other end.

Before putting out money for that, though, I'd try adjusting where the return is on the FX5 to get more water movement.  And consider taking the 150 off, unless there's a special reason you have it on there - I assume you upgraded to the FX5 and were seeding via the 150? You could put the 150 media in the FX5 and then you wouldn't need the HOB.

I don't usually have this surface stillness issue but I'm overfiltered on most tanks vs the manufacturer recommendation e.g. I have an Aquaclear 50 (200gph) on my 20 gallon long, an AC110 on my 55 gallon, and so on.  I only see the oily film in my crayfish tank which just has an Aquaclear 20 powerhead and the output only stirs up about 1/3 of the surface, thus the film builds up on the other half. 

Another option would be to add a Hydro V or similar sponge filter and the bubbles that pop and break the surface will help with the oily film.  Not sure if you want the sponge filter in  your tank though if it's a display tank for example, though you can hide it behind rocks, for example.

The major concern with the oily film, I believe, is that it can interfere with oxygen getting in and out of the water, which can be a problem especially if your filter dies due to a power outage, and definitely won't help you as you add more fish down the road (I assume).

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 06:29:02 AM »
I have a penguin biowheel 150 hob, and a fluval FX5. Currently my stock is 3 red empress (3" each), 4 lemon jakes (3" each), and a bn pleco.

With those fish, 125 gallons of water and an FX5... you have PLENTY of filtration. 

Like mentioned... may want to just stir the surface up a little more.  Doesn't take much to get the surface water moving and that should take care of it.

As for the Penguin... its not hurting anything, I say leave it be.  Any filtration is good filtration.

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 08:05:29 AM »
Do you use hand Sanitizer/Lotion ?

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 03:43:35 PM »
I got the fx5 with the tank, and I put the penguin on with a seeded biowheel to help with the cycle, and as an extra intake. Oh and also, its actually a Penguin 350-so a little more flow than the 150. And  I don't use any lotion on my hands, i will occasionally use non-scented hand sanitizer, but really i mostly use just non-scented regular soap for my hands. I am a swimmer, so i do get chlorine on my body, but i always shower after that so i don't think that could effect it.

I posted a video (let me know if it works or if i should make a youtube video of it) so hopefully you can see the amount of surface movement. And a picture where you can see where the major flow stop and the oilyness begins.

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 04:22:58 PM »
I'd suggest moving the 350 to the side the FX5 intake is at and putting the FX5 nozzle on the other end. Point the nozzle up towards the surface.
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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 04:31:25 PM »
Heres the pic of my tank, both outtake nozzles pointed upwards. Did the video work for you?

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2013, 11:22:10 PM »
I added another hob i had sitting around on the tank, and it seems to have gotten rid of the oil slick! Will it come back pretty quickly if i took it off?

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Re: Oily-looking on surface??
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2013, 07:23:06 AM »
Try it & see.