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sump turnover rate
« on: October 03, 2013, 07:06:45 PM »
I have been looking and looking and all I find is "reef related answers"

If doing a sump on a decently stocked freshwater set up what is a ideal GPH turn over rate?
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 07:12:48 PM »
How big is the tank? How many fish? What size of the fish? Are you over feeding? What size is the sump?

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 07:29:49 PM »
How big is the tank? How many fish? What size of the fish? Are you over feeding? What size is the sump?
These are all great questions, I was looking to get a ruff idea so I can plan ahead


It will be a 240 gallon tank, and It will be a all male hap/peacock tank.

I am looking at doing a DIY style sump, the 3 drawer plastic container and fill the first two drawers with bio-balls and scrubbies, have holes drill thru these two levels to allow the water to flow into the tank that its sitting in and then going thru the rest of the sump until it get's to the return pump and then it goes back into the tank. I am going to take your advice from a earlier post and put the blue filter pad on the top layer for easy maintenance.

I am trying to work with what I have, and for a return pump I only have a mag 7 right now, so in addition to the sump I was going to install 2 ac 110 on the back of the tank with a sponge and bio rings.
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 08:00:26 PM »
You can use the 7 for now it will be doing between 600 to 500 gph. The other thing you need to do is put the filter pad at the top and the bio media at the bottom. What happens when you have the bio media at the top you are pretty much creating a nitrate factory.  You don't even need the blue stuff you can go to Joanne's and get quilt batting and cut it to the size you desire.

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 08:24:08 PM »
You can use the 7 for now it will be doing between 600 to 500 gph. The other thing you need to do is put the filter pad at the top and the bio media at the bottom. What happens when you have the bio media at the top you are pretty much creating a nitrate factory.  You don't even need the blue stuff you can go to Joanne's and get quilt batting and cut it to the size you desire.
thanks again for your help.
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 08:25:56 PM »
With the batting from the craft store, how do you determine that it has not been treated with fire retardent or similar and rendered unsafe for fish?
I was looking at some the other day and was unable, or uneducated enough, to be sure of a decision.

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 08:31:46 PM »
Try catching it on fire! Generally i just get the big bulk roll. like 15 bucks for a 90in x15 yard roll

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 08:42:19 PM »
Try catching it on fire! Generally i just get the big bulk roll. like 15 bucks for a 90in x15 yard roll
I should do this on my deck just in case ;D
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 08:47:03 PM »
In store so you don't waste the money

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 08:53:42 PM »
In store so you don't waste the money

Um - What if the material IS flammable,  you will go to jail if you do this in the store !   LMAO !
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 08:57:09 PM »
In store so you don't waste the money

Um - What if the material IS flammable,  you will go to jail if you do this in the store ! 
I never would of thought of that :P
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 09:04:04 PM »
In store so you don't waste the money

Um - What if the material IS flammable,  you will go to jail if you do this in the store ! 
I never would of thought of that :P

Sometimes logic outweighs saving a buck or two....RLMAO....

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 09:23:25 PM »
With the batting from the craft store, how do you determine that it has not been treated with fire retardent or similar and rendered unsafe for fish?
I was looking at some the other day and was unable, or uneducated enough, to be sure of a decision.

Just buy 100% polyester fill.  Mine says 'Non-allergenic' for what it's worth.

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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 06:36:20 PM »
would a mag 12 be ok or would a mag 24 be two much?
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Re: sump turnover rate
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 07:03:42 PM »
Up to you 24s suck in my opinion shafts snape off all the time.