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Offline RichE

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dwarf cichlids
« on: September 15, 2013, 10:55:15 AM »
Any one in to breeding these or raising them?
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 11:21:29 AM »
New world old world?

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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2013, 11:24:59 AM »
New world old world?
Dan

I honestly didnt know there were new and old world.

I have looked up dwarf cichlids and all i am really seeing is rams.

So I figured I would ask a open question and try to get some feed back.

Thinking of trying some new types of fish other then Africans and the few new world that I have.
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 12:10:26 PM »
I know what's going on here.
 Dwarves need less space than than the bigger species & after your recent 90 blow out,... Kim has restricted the living room tank to something smaller.  ;) :P

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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 12:32:02 PM »
Rich,

  Rams are new world you might want to look into some apistogramma's
which are new world (south and central America).

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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 12:52:26 PM »
Rich,

  Rams are new world you might want to look into some apistogramma's
which are new world (south and central America).

Thanks Gary

I want to breed some small fish and im not a guppy or killi fish kinda person, so i figured rams would be good.

The replacement tank in the living room is a 75 no sump so i will just stick with the 8 or so peacocks I have(all male) and some plecos
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 01:07:53 PM »
IMO Rams,  Killies & guppies are all the same type of community type fish.  If you wanna try some smaller fish look into the Thorichthys, Cryptoheros & Archocentrus genus.  That way you can still have "real Cichlids " instead of feeder fish.


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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 01:18:58 PM »
I somewhat agree with Blair.  I would avoid Rams or Apistos for your first non-African cichlid more for the reason that they're harder to breed.  They need lower PH water and more diligent/close attention to raise the fry successfully...which I was never very good at...and I didn't have as many tanks at the time as you do...also ram/apisto parents like to eat the eggs more often than Africans (mouthbrooding Africans, that is), so you end up having to raise the fry with bubblers and meth blue and all that fun process.  If you go for rams, get german blue not golds or electric blue because it is much easier to sex german blue rams/wild type.

You tried pink convicts successfully, right?  I still have the pair I swapped to you and you swapped back to me.  :)  My wife won't let me get rid of them.  Anyway, Thoricthhys meeki (firemouths) and ellioti or maculipinnis are both really easy to breed, like the convicts.  That is, once you get a pair, which can be a little tricky sexing them until full grown.  Honduran Red Points - closer to wild, not some of the crossbred ones with convict blood - are good choices and really pretty as well - bright blue with red tings on the fins/tail.  IIRC Mike Zebrowski has some nice ones.

If you want small + egg layer + pretty, kribensis could be a really good choice.  That's a West African fish. They were my first cichlid, though not the first one I bred.  They successfully bred in my oddball tank with hungry fry predators like synos and bichirs/knives/leaf fish.  A pair could easily go in a 20g for a year or even life.  Their only quirk is that PH affects sex ratio of the fry, but if you're doing this more for fun it won't matter if you get all males or all females (PH above 7 = more males, below 7 = more females, I think).

Give us some more specific criteria and we can make better suggestions. :)

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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 02:46:35 PM »
There are also dwarf mbuna and dwarf west africans like kribs to look in to.

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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2013, 05:45:18 PM »
Thanks for the advice, I want to try some small species (breeding) as i have room for a lot of smaller tanks and it would open my options:)

Now the room is 96% done, I want to start looking and then there is this auction coming up That i heard about, I might be able to find something there ;D
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2013, 06:33:03 PM »
try fossochromis rostratus or champsochromis caeruleus i hear you can keep them in a 10g. i always thought kribs would be cool. are there any chromides you might have interest in?
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2013, 07:08:06 PM »
Metriaclima are these a decent fish? i did some reading and they seem to be what i am looking for.

Do these come across the auctions?

My goal is to find some smaller cichlids to breed, to have a variety of cichlids to work with along with the few l series plecos and corey cats I am working with.
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2013, 07:33:30 PM »
Metriaclima are these a decent fish? i did some reading and they seem to be what i am looking for.

Do these come across the auctions?

That would make sense, especially since you sold /traded off the OB Zebras that you got from me.

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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2013, 07:48:29 PM »
Metriaclima are these a decent fish? i did some reading and they seem to be what i am looking for.

Do these come across the auctions?

That would make sense, especially since you sold /traded off the OB Zebras that you got from me.
There you go getting loopy again  :P I still have those 2 fish i got from you.

After i posted i realized that i had these already ;)

SO i will continue looking for some smaller fish, i like the mbuna's and some of the other smaller Africans
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Re: dwarf cichlids
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2013, 08:56:18 PM »
demasoni
I have about 18,000 rounds of .223 I'm  looking to get rid of, 100 rd bags. 1-4 bags $40 ea, 5-9 bags $38 ea, 10 or more bags $35 ea. I can't put this in the for sale section, its not fish related. No shipping.