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Offline Ron

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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2013, 10:08:02 PM »
I'm cleanng my sand right now and I just want to know if I'm doing this right, wrong, or bass backwards. I put the sand into 5 gal buckets. Then I put the hose to the bottom of the bucket and turned it on. I'm looking for the overflow water to be clear, then I'll move the hose to another spot in the bucket. Am I close? About how long does this process take?
FWIW, filling the bucket pretty full of sand doesn't help it all get rinsed faster and is actually slower IMO because it's more of a PITA to stir with your hand. If you fill it 1/4 of the way, it'll probably take 5 minutes with the garden hose if you're actively swirling. If you fill it 3/4s full it'll take at least 15 minutes and possibly 20+.  :o

Sometimes it also helps to just fill the bucket and pour out the cloudy mess carefully rather than wait for it to spill over the side.
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2013, 08:10:29 PM »
Stick your hand in the sand & give it a stir every once & awhile.... it'll go faster

....and freeze your arm off.  :P
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2013, 08:19:33 PM »
What I would do to avoid the frozen arm you get a piece of pvc to stir with and boom no frozen arm.

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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2013, 09:25:16 PM »
Stick your hand in the sand & give it a stir every once & awhile.... it'll go faster

....and freeze your arm off.  :P
Yeah He would've found that out too, Lol

I'll usually just use warm water because of that.

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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2013, 09:28:56 PM »
A paint mixer attachment for an electric drill helps prevent the cold arm as well as does a nice job at mixing up the sand  ;)
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2013, 09:14:19 AM »
Seriously !   :o

1) Take an old bucket
2) Drill several fairly large holes around the bottom
3) Insert the pillow case
4) Fill the pillow case no more than 1/3 the volume with sand
5) Use the spray nozzle on the hose to aggitate the sand inside the pillow case.
6) Do this until the water running out of the bucket is clear (5 minutes or less)
7) pull the pillow case out of the bucket
8) Shake out excess water
9) Walk over to the tank
10) Empty out the pillow case into the tank.
11) Repeat steps until all the sand is washed and tank is filled to desired level.

Easy peazy  :P
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2013, 10:18:14 AM »
Seriously !   :o

1) Take an old bucket
2) Drill several fairly large holes around the bottom
3) Insert the pillow case
4) Fill the pillow case no more than 1/3 the volume with sand
5) Use the spray nozzle on the hose to aggitate the sand inside the pillow case.
6) Do this until the water running out of the bucket is clear (5 minutes or less)
7) pull the pillow case out of the bucket
8) Shake out excess water
9) Walk over to the tank
10) Empty out the pillow case into the tank.
11) Repeat steps until all the sand is washed and tank is filled to desired level.

Easy peazy  :P
Easy indeed, but to properly join the "sand substrate" club, everyone has to experience the "freezing arm" while stirring their sand at least once.  ;D 8)
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2013, 10:30:08 AM »
Seriously !   :o

1) Take an old bucket
2) Drill several fairly large holes around the bottom
3) Insert the pillow case
4) Fill the pillow case no more than 1/3 the volume with sand
5) Use the spray nozzle on the hose to aggitate the sand inside the pillow case.
6) Do this until the water running out of the bucket is clear (5 minutes or less)
7) pull the pillow case out of the bucket
8) Shake out excess water
9) Walk over to the tank
10) Empty out the pillow case into the tank.
11) Repeat steps until all the sand is washed and tank is filled to desired level.

Easy peazy  :P
Easy indeed, but to properly join the "sand substrate" club, everyone has to experience the "freezing arm" while stirring their sand at least once.  ;D 8)

LMAO -  ;D   Been there done that....
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2013, 11:40:28 AM »
Seriously !   :o

1) Take an old bucketi
2) Drill several fairly large holes around the bottom
3) Insert the pillow case
4) Fill the pillow case no more than 1/3 the volume with sand
5) Use the spray nozzle on the hose to aggitate the sand inside the pillow case.
6) Do this until the water running out of the bucket is clear (5 minutes or less)
7) pull the pillow case out of the bucket
8) Shake out excess water
9) Walk over to the tank
10) Empty out the pillow case into the tank.
11) Repeat steps until all the sand is washed and tank is filled to desired level.

Easy peazy  :P
So basically what you're saying is that it's way easier than whatever the hell it is that i have been doing? Noted, I'm gonna do it your way. Thank you
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2013, 12:01:02 PM »
Yep, very easy.... fill up the bucket 1/3 with sand,  turn on the faucet,  run the water in the sand,stir the sand around,  jump out the water, repeat a couple times, dump the sand in tank & keep doing it until you have the amount of sand desired in the tank.

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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2013, 12:22:05 PM »
Let me know if it works better once the feeling in your hand comes back !   ;D
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2013, 12:54:19 PM »
Just wondering, does the pillow case trap some of that detritus you're trying to remove from the sand or does it pretty much flush out?
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2013, 01:05:51 PM »
Just wondering, does the pillow case trap some of that detritus you're trying to remove from the sand or does it pretty much flush out?

Good question:  I suppose it would, after I dump out the last pillow case, reverse it and clean it out there is particulate left in the pillow case...
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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2013, 01:37:15 PM »
Thread count is a big factor of this also

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Re: changing substrate... tips tricks or insight
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2013, 02:41:03 PM »
Let me know if it works better once the feeling in your hand comes back !   ;D
Is the cold water too much for you to deal with?  Should I bring you something from the wife's medicine cabinet tonight?  ;) Oh!  I know what it is!  Your hands must be too soft from all that Buffalo Bill lotion!  :P