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Offline Ron

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Fishroom Heating?
« on: June 04, 2013, 05:13:27 PM »
Anyone running a space heater in their "fishroom"? If not, what are you using?

I've been running heaters in my larger tanks, plus smaller tanks near the floor (~78F) and allowing the ambient heat to keep the rest reasonably warm (~76F). I'm wondering if switching to a central heat source for the room might make more sense. Perhaps a space heater?
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 05:43:23 PM »
I'm using a big fan propelled ceramic,  but IDK what kind or wattage.  So I'm of No help.

My electric went up $35 a month once I started using it. But I wasn't running in tank heaters before using it. So again,  I am of No help.

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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2013, 06:19:11 PM »
  So I'm of No help.

 So again,  I am of No help.
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 09:08:06 PM »
I had a vent-less natural gas heater installed in my fishroom about three years ago and my gas bill is up but my electrical bill has been down by more than enough that I paid off the heater and installation costs within the first three years.  I do have a temperature gradient in the room but the walls and ceiling were insulated with fiberglass batting so the room does stay warm overall.  I'd say there's a two-three degree difference between the floor (which is not insulated) to the ceiling.  I've tried using a small fan to distribute warmer air from above down to the lower levels but it's pretty ineffective. 

Given the option in  fishroom of any size, I'd always go with central heating over individual electric heaters in the tanks.  If you have one or more tanks in the room that need more heat than your room heater can provide, you can always put individual heaters in those few tanks.

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 10:50:01 PM »
Great topic Ron.  I am in the same position heaters in all my ~80 tanks.
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 11:22:03 PM »
Variable wattage oil filled electric space heater works great, i run a 15yo version of this link: http://www.lowes.com/pd_167509-47166-73368_0__?productId=3468001&Ntt=oil+filled+space+heater&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Doil%2Bfilled%2Bspace%2Bheater&facetInfo=

My fish room is only 10x12 and this doesn't deal with humidity.  I had to open windows in January because humidity was cresting 60%.  not looking to rot my house from the inside out....

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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 11:26:07 PM »
Whiteram gave me advice about using a dehumidifier to heat the room while remove the moisture, 2 birds, but not efficient.  All in all operating cost would be a wash.

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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 06:46:50 AM »
If you have one or more tanks in the room that need more heat than your room heater can provide, you can always put individual heaters in those few tanks.
That's a very good point. I don't think I'd get rid of my heater collection if I moved to a central heater just for that reason.
My fish room is only 10x12 and this doesn't deal with humidity.  I had to open windows in January because humidity was cresting 60%.  not looking to rot my house from the inside out....
Whiteram gave me advice about using a dehumidifier to heat the room while remove the moisture, 2 birds, but not efficient.  All in all operating cost would be a wash.
I have been running a dehumidifier as well, which helps add some heat to the room. I also have my wood furnace in the room immediately outside the fishroom, which is the worse insulated wall simply due to the door, so in the winter it helps to buffer the ambient temperature when entering/exiting.

I've spent a lot of time thinking about this topic over the years and I don't think it's possible to save operating costs if the choice is between electric heaters in the tanks and an electric-powered heater for the room. The gas heater like jamarini mentioned would help save cost since it's often more efficient to heat with gas than electricity.

The big advantage I see is to save costs on buying/replacing heaters on a tank by tank basis. Liberating myself from another $20 heater per tank makes setting up extra tanks just that much easier.
Variable wattage oil filled electric space heater works great, i run a 15yo version of this link: http://www.lowes.com/pd_167509-47166-73368_0__?productId=3468001&Ntt=oil+filled+space+heater&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Doil%2Bfilled%2Bspace%2Bheater&facetInfo=
I'll have to go take a look at that. From what I've researched so far it seems that many oscillating-style ones are bad news over time because the cord weakens due to continuous movement within the heater, leading to a greater chance of fire. For a smaller, well insulated room a stationary one should work out fine.
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 10:27:38 AM »
I was talking to Ted Judy regarding this topic awhile back & he recommended using baseboard heaters.

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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 10:11:45 PM »
Ron I visited a guppy breeder last winter that had two electric ceiling heaters.  They heated his room well. But I expect cost to operate to be high.
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 11:46:15 PM »
http://www.rinnai.us/direct-vent-wall-furnace/product/ex11c_rhfe-265fta

Someday when I have a complete fishroom this is what I plan to install or something similar. They keep building higher efficiency units and the prices are slowly dropping.   Higher cost upfront, but should pay back in a few years.  The direct vent is safer and no added humidity that you get from non-venting.  I actually put a non vented unit in and used it for a day.  I did not like the fumes and just was not comfortable with it. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2013, 12:23:09 PM »
http://www.rinnai.us/direct-vent-wall-furnace/product/ex11c_rhfe-265fta

Someday when I have a complete fishroom this is what I plan to install or something similar. They keep building higher efficiency units and the prices are slowly dropping.   Higher cost upfront, but should pay back in a few years.  The direct vent is safer and no added humidity that you get from non-venting.  I actually put a non vented unit in and used it for a day.  I did not like the fumes and just was not comfortable with it. 
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2013, 01:27:35 PM »
The gas furnace looks nice, but I'd need a room at least 3x as large to justify the price.

I'm noticing a trend of electric-based heating. The guppy breeder with them on the ceiling sounds like a great way to save space. FWIW I stopped in at Lowes this morning ... they don't stock space heaters when it's not cold outside and sorta thought I was nuts asking for one.  :o
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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 01:48:26 PM »
I do like the conserving room idea... but I don't like the idea of a heater up high.

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Re: Fishroom Heating?
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2013, 02:34:07 PM »
I do like the conserving room idea... but I don't like the idea of a heater up high.
Because it'll sit in the warmest part of the room or because heat rises (as do flames!)?
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