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Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« on: May 15, 2013, 02:22:51 PM »
OK, so we have a pair of Labeotropheus Trewavasae.  I understood the male was the blue one and the female was the blotchy tan colored one.

They swim together all the time and did the dance a few times.  We've been waiting... well, success!!!

BUT...

The blue one is the one holding!!!

Is the blue on the female, or do we have a male holding?

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 03:40:34 PM »
Any chance you have a marmalade cat?
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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 03:41:20 PM »
Any chance you have a marmalade cat?

I dont know what that is.


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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 03:47:29 PM »
Our "female" does have some dark spots... kind of OB like.  Not colorful, but just dark spots.  Tan body with dark spots.  I was told that it would look like this when older... the spots may become more prevalent.

Our "male" is all steel blue.  It is supposed to get orange on the fins I believe and maybe some on the head also... I think.

The male is not eating and has the typical holding jaw look going on.


Confusing me.


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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 03:50:07 PM »
Labeotropheus fuelleborni. i think thats what a Marmalade cat is but that is just from a little research but i dont get how a male holds still? but from what you just said it doesnt seem to be one of those. ill keep looking though

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 04:23:09 PM »
It could also be possible that you have a dominant female in male coloration.  Females will lay and hold without a male present, and swallow the eggs later.

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 04:26:09 PM »
Marmalade cat typically refers to male Labeotropheus (fuelleborni or trewavasae) that carry the sex-linked male-recessive OB gene that causes blotching. Sometimes people like to be less specific and also include zebra sp., while others like to be more specific and suggest that only certain OB color patterns count while others don't.

My point - it was possible that you might have 2 males hanging out. If the OB one is fully a drab coloration though, it's a female.

As far as the male holding, it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of it, but I've also never seen it myself and used to breed red top trewavasae. How large are your fish?

One possible explanation could be that it's holding rocks/sand for some strange reason, if it does indeed have something in it's mouth. Nothing personal, I just like to remain skeptical.  ;)
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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 07:23:46 PM »
How about some pix of both?  That may help with the ID and male/female issue.

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2013, 01:22:19 PM »
How about some pix of both?  That may help with the ID and male/female issue.

I was already planning on that last night.   ;D

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 01:23:39 PM »
The male is the blue one... which seems to be holding.

The female is the other "tan" one.


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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 01:26:38 PM »
I have also noticed the male hiding in the rocks a lot... which it NEVER did before.  Still seems perfectly healthy though.

The male always chased the female around... like I would expect. 

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 01:36:03 PM »
Pull them both out & vent them. ;)

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 08:17:47 AM »
Pull them both out & vent them. ;)

That means I would have to tear apart the tank to catch them... and then learn how to vent a fish.

Thats work.

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Re: Labeotropheus Trewavasae - male holding?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 09:26:18 AM »
Set up a couple of traps & when you catch them compare their vents.