Michigan Cichlid Association
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: GrizzlysDad on February 28, 2015, 11:59:40 AM
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Some of you may have noticed that I ran a vendor table at the latest MCAS auction selling Neptune Aquatics foods such as Plecocaine, various types of flakes, algae wafers, styx, and bytes. I expect to be doing the vendor table at future MCAS auctions as well.
I also want to point out that the pricing is all the same, I am in no way making any profit. I'm simply doing this for my good friend John as another alternative for you to get his great line of foods.
John has also donated to the clubs for raffle items at auctions and monthly meetings which help support our clubs.
Many of you asked me if the table would be set up at the MCA auctions....hence, this poll.
If these poll questions show strong interest from a positive standpoint maybe we can leave the decisions up to the Board of Directors to accommodate the wishes of the membership.
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In case it's not obvious to someone, you can make multiple selections when voting. ;)
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
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In case it's not obvious to someone, you can make multiple selections when voting. ;)
Thanks for pointing that fact out Ron...just in case anyone missed the obvious where it states you can vote up to 3 times.
FYI, that statement disappears on each individual's screen after they vote. ;)
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
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I also want to mention that having a vendor table at the MCA auction does not matter one way or the other to me personally.
I will end up selling just as much for John with pre-ordered deliveries....but with the vendor table, at least the club would be able to charge a fee as well as typically getting donations from the vendor for the raffle.
Another little bit of info....there were quite a few people that contacted me prior to the MCAS auction that would not have been there if not for the fact they were coming to buy food.
Also, so there's no misunderstanding, I am totally against a vendor table that would sell cichlids, catfish, etc that are obvious auction material.
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
LOL, you were editing one line while I was doing the same on the other for clarification.
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
LOL, you were editing one line while I was doing the same on the other for clarification.
I started to edit that too, but didn't want to since somebody already voted for that option.
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
LOL, you were editing one line while I was doing the same on the other for clarification.
I started to edit that too, but didn't want to since somebody already voted for that option.
I think both statements need to be identical with the exception that they are opposite in meaning (if that makes sense).
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
LOL, you were editing one line while I was doing the same on the other for clarification.
I started to edit that too, but didn't want to since somebody already voted for that option.
I think both statements need to be identical with the exception that they are opposite in meaning (if that makes sense).
Yes, I understand what you're meaning. I just didn't wanna be the one changing an option somebody had already voted for.
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
LOL, you were editing one line while I was doing the same on the other for clarification.
I started to edit that too, but didn't want to since somebody already voted for that option.
I think both statements need to be identical with the exception that they are opposite in meaning (if that makes sense).
Yes, I understand what you're meaning. I just didn't wanna be the one changing an option somebody had already voted for.
You mean you don't want to edit the poll to reflect someone voting for something illegal or immoral concerning Omar and his goat? :o :o :o :o :o
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Presales for meeting or auction is fine, but I am not in favor of vendor tables of any kind at the auction as they deter from the auction and can negatively impact the event based on my experience. This is more the reason to maybe hold a swap once a year.
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Tony , I appreciate what you doing to help John. The members have purchased many of his products either directly or through group buys. I don't support setting up vendor tables at the meetings or auctions. I feel it distracts from the meetings and what the club is doing at the meetings. I am afraid it will lead to others wanting to set-up their own tables and sell goods. I don't see a problem with you offering the products and deliver at the meeting as long is it is handled before or after the meeting.
Setting up tables at the auction may be an option, but I am concerned with it being a distraction...honestly 50/50 on auction portion of this proposal.
John, thanks for your input but nobody is suggesting setting up a vendor table at monthly meetings.
Just to clarify, having the foods available at meetings is exactly how you described, just offering the option to have members pick it up at the meetings....has been known to get extra people to attend the meetings that otherwise would not have attended.
Poll has been edited to point out that the meeting option is regarding presales.
LOL, you were editing one line while I was doing the same on the other for clarification.
I started to edit that too, but didn't want to since somebody already voted for that option.
I think both statements need to be identical with the exception that they are opposite in meaning (if that makes sense).
Yes, I understand what you're meaning. I just didn't wanna be the one changing an option somebody had already voted for.
You mean you don't want to edit the poll to reflect someone voting for something illegal or immoral concerning Omar and his goat? :o :o :o :o :o
Actually I had thought about editing the option with the most votes to "I'm in favor of the club renting a goat & having Josh preside over the meetings while seated on said goat."
:P
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My opinion is that I'm not opposed to a vendor table or two at the auction provided they aren't selling fish, and the items being sold are new (if drygoods are being sold). I could see food, pleco caves, holey rock, etc. as an additional draw if it was advertised well in advance.
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As a board member, I'm hesitant to share my personal opinion. I don't make decisions on the board based on personal opinion, but try to represent the best interests of membership as a whole.
The auctions, in addition being a great place for people to both sell and buy fish, are the primary fundraisers for the club. It allows the club to afford to bring in speakers from across the country who are recognized in the hobby. It allows for the summer picnic and winter christmas get togethers. It enables us to help support worthy causes such as making equipment donations to help support the resurrection efforts going on at Belle Isle Aquarium.
People coming to purchase other items based on presales have that money already set aside. They know to bring more than that in order to participate in the auction, raffles, etc. For all the people who come unaware of a vendor presence, they might just spend the majority on the vendor and have nothing left to help benefit the club.
On the topic of non-fish being offered at a vendor table, those would compete with our raffle items. We also recently started allowing a limited number of dry goods in the auction, which may also be considered in competition.
As mentioned, a swap would likely provide a better venue for vendors to hold tables.
As mentioned, I don't see a problem with presages and think those are just fine. I believe they certainly help bring more people to events who might not otherwise commit to attending.
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People coming to purchase other items based on presales have that money already set aside. They know to bring more than that in order to participate in the auction, raffles, etc. For all the people who come unaware of a vendor presence, they might just spend the majority on the vendor and have nothing left to help benefit the club.
That's why I mentioned advertising well in advance, so people are aware that the vendors are there and plan appropriately. I would not want to see more than two vendor tables because of our past experience with a combined auction/swap.
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People coming to purchase other items based on presales have that money already set aside. They know to bring more than that in order to participate in the auction, raffles, etc. For all the people who come unaware of a vendor presence, they might just spend the majority on the vendor and have nothing left to help benefit the club.
That's why I mentioned advertising well in advance, so people are aware that the vendors are there and plan appropriately. I would not want to see more than two vendor tables because of our past experience with a combined auction/swap.
I knew in advanced that MCAS was hosting 2 vendors. Had one not sold out of some items so quickly, I'd have probably spent almost all I brought on those items rather than bringing home a box full of fish instead. Just saying.
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I'm sure that could be applicable to some people. Some people are in the market for fish, and some people aren't.
I guess I was looking at it as a possible draw for someone that might not otherwise attend. That person, once at the auction, is more likely to buy fish than a person that didn't come at all.
I don't know if there would be a way to quantify whether or not it's helpful or harmful to the club's bottom line, but I guess I was looking at it as an additional service to our members by hosting vendors that might offer items available for immediate purchase that would otherwise have to be shipped.
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Maybe MCA should close the kitchen during auctions....people are spending money on food that they should be spending on fish :P
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I'm sure that could be applicable to some people. Some people are in the market for fish, and some people aren't.
I guess I was looking at it as a possible draw for someone that might not otherwise attend. That person, once at the auction, is more likely to buy fish than a person that didn't come at all.
I don't know if there would be a way to quantify whether or not it's helpful or harmful to the club's bottom line, but I guess I was looking at it as an additional service to our members by hosting vendors that might offer items available for immediate purchase that would otherwise have to be shipped.
That's exactly what happened with the MCAS auction. At least half a dozen people contacted me before the auction just to buy the food. Once I told them to come buy it at the auction, they stayed for their very first auction.
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I'm sure that could be applicable to some people. Some people are in the market for fish, and some people aren't.
I guess I was looking at it as a possible draw for someone that might not otherwise attend. That person, once at the auction, is more likely to buy fish than a person that didn't come at all.
I don't know if there would be a way to quantify whether or not it's helpful or harmful to the club's bottom line, but I guess I was looking at it as an additional service to our members by hosting vendors that might offer items available for immediate purchase that would otherwise have to be shipped.
That's exactly what happened with the MCAS auction. At least half a dozen people contacted me before the auction just to buy the food. Once I told them to come buy it at the auction, they stayed for their very first auction.
Those are presales; keep it up. ;)
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I'm sure that could be applicable to some people. Some people are in the market for fish, and some people aren't.
I guess I was looking at it as a possible draw for someone that might not otherwise attend. That person, once at the auction, is more likely to buy fish than a person that didn't come at all.
I don't know if there would be a way to quantify whether or not it's helpful or harmful to the club's bottom line, but I guess I was looking at it as an additional service to our members by hosting vendors that might offer items available for immediate purchase that would otherwise have to be shipped.
That's exactly what happened with the MCAS auction. At least half a dozen people contacted me before the auction just to buy the food. Once I told them to come buy it at the auction, they stayed for their very first auction.
Those are presales; keep it up. ;)
Yeah presales...but am I not being clear....those are people that would not have even been at the auction, never even knew about fish auctions!!!....and they stayed at said auction and spent money on fish.
Your turn sir ;)
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So, is the voting on Blair bringing a goat or is it on Josh sitting on the goat during the meeting or is it Tony sitting on the goat selling food? Either ways...it should be advertised at which meeting it will be. Are there going to be tickets sold, on a 50/50 to help the club for this event? I think it would be a big draw.....Maybe even offer rides for kids.....I know, I would try and make it.
PS.
Will pictures be allowed or will they scare Blair and traumatize the goat?
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I can't wait to see this meeting...
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Maybe MCA should close the kitchen during auctions....people are spending money on food that they should be spending on fish :P
I agree bump
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But mca could also just sell overpriced hotdogs and some chip crumbs like other clubs do. But we get Hebrew national hot dogs.
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Hebrew hotdogs, that way there's no fish it them out of respect for the hobbyist.