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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: four_by_ken on November 26, 2014, 10:23:02 AM

Title: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 26, 2014, 10:23:02 AM
OK, has to fit my criteria...

-have to have some size to them.  5-6 inches
-color is a must.  MUST HAVE COLOR
-I tend to like the more aggressive fish
-I dont want one fish with color and 5-6 gray fish
-nothing that is real common

Oscar like personality is a plus.  But, I dont want Oscars.

I dont care about breeding.  If they do, great.  If not... I dont care one bit.

Nothing that requires soft water or low pH.  Which pretty much rules out Amazons.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: danielratti on November 26, 2014, 10:30:29 AM
 Herichthys Carpintis
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Regalblue on November 26, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
How many fish would you like? 

Like Dan said,  carpintis is a good one. But, eventually it'll end up being only a pair.  So,  if you want a group (long term) you'll have to go with a species from the Thorichthys or Astatheros genuses.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Bremmon on November 26, 2014, 02:53:28 PM
Green Terrors.. I know they are fairly common, but a tank full of them is absolutely amazing.. I have a buddy that has a 200g species tank with terrors.
Archocentrus red panamense are awesome.
Cichlasoma Ornatum
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 26, 2014, 04:38:48 PM
Not set on quantity yet.  But, I would like a half dozen.

But for a perfect fish, I could go with two.  But large ones.

Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Stramn on November 28, 2014, 09:17:37 AM
Go with some zebrina pikes!
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: pyro on November 28, 2014, 10:44:47 AM
Benthochromis Tricoti
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h413/pyrofishtoo/Dire%20Wolf%20Cichlids/BenthochromisTricoti-WC5.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/pyrofishtoo/media/Dire%20Wolf%20Cichlids/BenthochromisTricoti-WC5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Ron on November 28, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
Sanke Gold
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: jcunningham0295 on November 28, 2014, 12:09:07 PM
Benthochromis Tricoti
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h413/pyrofishtoo/Dire%20Wolf%20Cichlids/BenthochromisTricoti-WC5.jpg) (http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/pyrofishtoo/media/Dire%20Wolf%20Cichlids/BenthochromisTricoti-WC5.jpg.html)

These would be awesome.  My dream fish for sure.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 29, 2014, 12:40:40 AM
Sanke Gold

Hopefully next year in my pond.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 29, 2014, 12:43:55 AM
Benthochromis Tricoti

Very nice.  But, sounds like they are hard to get.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 29, 2014, 12:45:33 AM
Go with some zebrina pikes!

Hey, now thats pretty unique!!!

Experience with them?
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: danielratti on November 29, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
They are like a grand a piece give or take a few hundred dollars...  I don't think anyone on here has experience with the.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Ron on November 29, 2014, 09:13:50 AM
They are like a grand a piece give or take a few hundred dollars...  I don't think anyone on here has experience with the.
A number of years ago Oyers kept some and I saw them a handful of times. Does that count as experience?
FWIW, they never were able to get a successful hatch IIRC and like most of the featherfin types, they only show the best of their best coloration immediately before or during spawning. They were pretty, but they wouldn't look like that picture all of the time.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: danielratti on November 29, 2014, 10:32:36 AM
I'm talking about the pikes brother man.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Bremmon on November 29, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
I've found a few suppliers for the Crenicichla zebrina pike, at 8" they run 600-700 bucks a piece.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Ron on November 29, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
I'm talking about the pikes brother man.
Gotcha. People get confused when you don't quote the post you're responding to.  :P
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Ron on November 29, 2014, 04:17:21 PM
I've found a few suppliers for the Crenicichla zebrina pike, at 8" they run 600-700 bucks a piece.
Pretty fish, but holy smokes! Not worth the risk of a power outage IMO.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 29, 2014, 04:22:20 PM
Can we get the prices down to something more realistic?

  :o
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: danielratti on November 29, 2014, 04:55:30 PM
Killies?
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Ron on November 29, 2014, 06:41:33 PM
Frontosa  :P :o ;D
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: rcombs on November 29, 2014, 07:30:45 PM
Peacock bass/ silver arrowana
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: jcunningham0295 on November 29, 2014, 07:32:50 PM
If you get interested let me know I can usually get tricotti pretty reasonable at a few inches.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: jcunningham0295 on November 29, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
I still say white lip mdoka.  Even the females turn blue.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: rcombs on November 29, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
I still say white lip mdoka.  Even the females turn blue.

Yessssssss
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Regalblue on November 29, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
If you're digging the zebrina pikes,  then check out Cr. cincta...  they're pretty badass & easily found right now.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 30, 2014, 06:12:55 AM
Peacock bass/ silver arrowana
If I had a big tank as backed up for when they out grow my 140, I would do this for sure.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 30, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
I still say white lip mdoka.  Even the females turn blue.

They are one of my top choices right now.

Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 30, 2014, 06:19:39 AM
Killies?

Aren't they tiny little things?
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 30, 2014, 06:20:38 AM
If you get interested let me know I can usually get tricotti pretty reasonable at a few inches.

I'd be afraid of one fish in the tank with color.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 30, 2014, 06:26:57 AM
If you're digging the zebrina pikes,  then check out Cr. cincta...  they're pretty badass & easily found right now.

Would pike be difficult, if possible, to keep in my hard water?
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on November 30, 2014, 06:28:03 AM
Frontosa  :P :o ;D

Wife's tank, in process.
 8)
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: kodyboy on November 30, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
What about a severum tank or  angelfish?  There are some harder to find color morphs.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: fishandcards on November 30, 2014, 09:40:04 PM
I would chooze eithe eye btiers or venustus.....the female eye bites may not be colorful, but still are cool.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: danielratti on November 30, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
Aristochromis chrysti
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Regalblue on December 01, 2014, 12:34:03 AM
If you're digging the zebrina pikes,  then check out Cr. cincta...  they're pretty badass & easily found right now.

Would pike be difficult, if possible, to keep in my hard water?


What's your readings?
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on December 01, 2014, 01:29:46 PM
If you're digging the zebrina pikes,  then check out Cr. cincta...  they're pretty badass & easily found right now.

Would pike be difficult, if possible, to keep in my hard water?


What's your readings?

Its been so long that I checked, I dont really remember.  I just remember that straight from the tap, it was higher side on ph and very hard.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: four_by_ken on December 01, 2014, 01:31:45 PM
What about a severum tank or  angelfish?  There are some harder to find color morphs.

Not my style, but thanks for the suggestion.

I would chooze eithe eye btiers or venustus.....the female eye bites may not be colorful, but still are cool.

Each are definitely on the list I am going to be deciding upon.

Aristochromis chrysti

For sure on the list... near the top.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: kodyboy on December 02, 2014, 09:15:58 PM
What about long ear sunfish? Good sized, very colorful and not common.
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: Regalblue on December 02, 2014, 09:42:40 PM
What about long ear sunfish? Good sized, very colorful and not common.
Damn it, Scott!  This is a Cichlid forum!  :P
Title: Re: 140 gallon tank - 1 species - what is it?
Post by: kodyboy on December 03, 2014, 06:34:21 AM
Funny:) Sunfish are very similar to cichlids in many ways even though they are not closely related evolutionarily.
Please forgive my non-cichlid suggestion.