Author Topic: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help  (Read 4800 times)

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2014, 08:46:49 PM »
This might sound silly but since you mentioned it possibly being a hot tub pump and it being rated at 175w, is it possible that it is a combination inline water pump/inline heater for a hot tub?
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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2014, 06:42:06 PM »
A little update. I purchased a new 1350gph pump and installed it only to realize that there was a major reason the original pump was 175 watts but only had a flow of 1119gph. I never counted the 7 90 degree elbows in my head height Friction pressure loss from 10 feet of 3/4 inch pvc. My "new" more "powerful" pump barely even pushes any water at all with the restrictions the system how it is set up.

Does head height differ whether you are pushing or pulling the water up?

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2014, 07:02:15 PM »
Going down you got gravity working with you up you are working against it. That is a lot of 90's and 10ft is the sump in your basement? If you can get away with doing a straight shot up and reduce the 90's that would be idea. Generally I would never hard plumb a pump do to many reasons. Best bet is 2 barb fittings and some flexible hose.

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2014, 07:54:38 PM »
I would have never used pvc either, but that's how it was set up when I bought it with an iwaki water pump.  I was thinking of flexible tubing myself. It looks like a standard garden hose would screw right on my pump, is that not possible.

The pump is set up on the opposite side of the bulkheads so it the pvc goes up 1 foot, parallel to the ground for 3 feet, then up through the bulkhead 3 feet, then back down 3 feet, that's not counting the foot that is attached to the intake side coming out of the wet dry sump

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2014, 08:18:21 PM »
I suppose if I could flip the sump around I could cut out about 5 feet of pvc and 3 90 degree elbows. I'm not sure if it would make a difference in the pressure I get on the outtake or not, but I imagine it would make quite a huge difference

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2014, 09:44:35 PM »
It would. Dude keep the iwaki

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2014, 10:09:45 PM »
The iwaki was keeping my tank 86 degrees or even hotter sometimes. I was trying to get a more energy efficient, cooler pump. With my filtration system set up as it is I don't see any better option than to leave the Plexiglas hood off and keep blowing a fan on the pump and sump system which had been keeping it about 79 degrees.

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2014, 10:36:09 PM »
Those shouldn't make the tank hot seeing as it is an external pump... If it was internal yes it could throw heat. The only part that would be producing heat is the back of the pump motor.

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Re: Sump/Wet Dry Filter Help
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2014, 10:47:26 PM »
Thus my dilemma. The pump motor does get hot. I don't know how or where the heat transfer is taking place but it sure is getting frustrating. Now after this constant temperature being too hot and me trying to get the tank at the right temperature now all of a sudden my fish have ich. I don't have a heater plugged in.