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Offline neilsarah

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Species Help Please
« on: November 11, 2013, 06:31:36 PM »
Can anyone help me out here. This was sold to me as a eureka jake. Every picture i find of a eureka jake looks nothing like this. Any ideas?

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 06:44:20 PM »
Definitely not an Eureka,  it's not even an Aulonocara .

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 06:50:21 PM »
Seems to remind me of a hap. I has red showing through a little but like you said does not resemble A peacock at all.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 06:57:20 PM »
Almost Red Empress... ish.

Looks to be a mutant maybe.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 07:04:58 PM »
I bought it as a juvi at a pretty reputable store so I would hope not. But I guess you never know.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 07:33:32 PM »
Its a hybrid that is popping up locally as a red emp... you get it from preuss?

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 07:45:37 PM »
No. They had it listed as a eureka though. It was so small when I bought it I didn't think anything of it. Now that I've had it a while I actually started researching eureka jakes and realized it wasn't even close.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 08:06:11 PM »
Looks like a red empress hybrid of some sort, definitely not a eureka or an empress for that matter.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 08:34:20 PM »
Red Empress juvenile or a hybrid from that family.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 10:00:26 PM »
I've seen chilotilapia rhoadesii fry that look just like this
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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 10:41:19 PM »
Head is all wrong for chilotilapia, and the striping is off as well.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 10:48:15 PM »
Way too much red in the tail also.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2013, 11:00:58 PM »
Looks like a red empress hybrid of some sort, definitely not a eureka or an empress for that matter.

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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 11:40:05 AM »
The quickness of so many resorting to calling something they haven't yet seen a hybrid helps illustrate the problem with hybrids even being in the hobby.  :(

One person here has correctly identified it. CrazyCoolPeacocks, job well done!  ;)

The striping, solid double-stripes high on the body at a slightly angle, screams Chilotilapia. The head-shape gives it away as C. rhoadesii rather than C. euchilus (those are the only 2 Chilotilapia species). The head shape might appear off to some because it's such a young fish. FWIW, the fish pictured is a male and with such early color, he should look really nice as he gets older.

FWIW, if it had stripping on it at the time you bought it, that would have given it away as not being a peacock of any kind. It could have been a tank labeling error, and obviously the staff didn't know any better, but perhaps we can't expect everyone to know everything so I'm not sure how much I'd fault them unless they'd argued the fact that fish was a eureka jake.
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Re: Species Help Please
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2013, 04:56:04 AM »
Thank you Ron! And it did not have the stripes on it when I bought it. Thanks again for your help. Can't wait to see him when he is fully colored.