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Offline jamarini

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Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« on: May 27, 2013, 09:26:46 AM »
I'd like to try shipping fry and juvies by US Mail.  I know some of you have experience doing this so I'd appreciate any tips or suggestions re: what to do and what not to do.  I've heard: pharmacies are good sources of small styro boxes for shipping; never to identify the contents at the post office; use oxygen and/or bag buddies; double bag, etc.  What's the most foolproof way to ship using the US Postal Service? 

Thanks in advance for what you can advise.


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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2013, 09:31:47 AM »
Why never identify?

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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2013, 09:39:41 AM »
I am pretty sure by law you have to. Could be wrong but some species of fish and or reptile cannot enter some states. Plus if you let them know its a live animal they may handle it a bit more genital.

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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2013, 10:05:49 AM »
Those were all my exact thoughts.

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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 10:23:01 AM »
Perhaps, it's necessary to identify that there are fish inside of the package, I'm not sure.  That's why I'm asking experienced shippers for advice.  I had read that indicating there are live fish in the package actually causes them to handle differently which has added one to two days to the arrival time.  Seems illogical but that's what one person told me who had been shipping fish by various methods.  The idea is to get them to their intended destinations safely and as quickly as is feasible or practical. 

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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 12:05:54 PM »
When I was shipping a lot more often I did several things. I got free USPS Priority Mail boxes (12 x 12 x 8 I believe) delivered to my house through eBay (I used to do a lot of selling on there) and I had a seller who would sell me styro kits designed to fit in those boxes at a reasonable price (maybe $1 a box...precut and ready to go in). I'd use heat packs if needed but preferred to ship during good weather to avoid it. If shipping to Michigan (and maybe some of the surrounding states) I found UPS to be cheaper and faster.

I generally don't feed them for 2 days before shipping. On shipping day (which is always a Monday or Tuesday) I move them into a container before bagging. The stress of netting helps them poop out most of what's left in their digestive system. I still have bag buddies left and use them.

About identifying the contents, what you need to do is write on the box that it contains water. If they don't know what the liquid is they will have to inspect it. Obviously some will and some are lazy and let it go. So if you identify the liquid they will usually let it go (again, some are anal and just gotta see for themselves). This was told to me by the PostMaster of my local office...whom I know pretty well. Also, be sure to have some newspaper to absorb any leakage. If it leaks and the box shows it, it could delay it several days and they might send it back to you.

I also highly recommend kordon breather bags. I've used them several times when shipping fry/juvies and have had good success. You can't seal up the box air tight though, it has to be able to breathe. The breather bags have several benefits besides letting the fish "breathe". You close the bag with no air pocket which takes up less space and lets you put more bags in one shipment or use a smaller box...either way saving you money on shipping. Secondly, since there's no air pocket, the fish don't get swirled around nearly as much during transport. There are also less wrinkles for them to get trapped in.

You should also expect a lost/delayed package or two once in a while...so don't overload your bags. I had one shipment that took 8 days to be delivered. 3 out of the four bags had live fish. The fourth one I'm guessing 1 died and sealed the fate of the rest.
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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 05:05:51 PM »
When I was shipping a lot more often I did several things. I got free USPS Priority Mail boxes (12 x 12 x 8 I believe) delivered to my house through eBay (I used to do a lot of selling on there) and I had a seller who would sell me styro kits designed to fit in those boxes at a reasonable price (maybe $1 a box...precut and ready to go in). I'd use heat packs if needed but preferred to ship during good weather to avoid it. If shipping to Michigan (and maybe some of the surrounding states) I found UPS to be cheaper and faster.

I generally don't feed them for 2 days before shipping. On shipping day (which is always a Monday or Tuesday) I move them into a container before bagging. The stress of netting helps them poop out most of what's left in their digestive system. I still have bag buddies left and use them.

About identifying the contents, what you need to do is write on the box that it contains water. If they don't know what the liquid is they will have to inspect it. Obviously some will and some are lazy and let it go. So if you identify the liquid they will usually let it go (again, some are anal and just gotta see for themselves). This was told to me by the PostMaster of my local office...whom I know pretty well. Also, be sure to have some newspaper to absorb any leakage. If it leaks and the box shows it, it could delay it several days and they might send it back to you.

I also highly recommend kordon breather bags. I've used them several times when shipping fry/juvies and have had good success. You can't seal up the box air tight though, it has to be able to breathe. The breather bags have several benefits besides letting the fish "breathe". You close the bag with no air pocket which takes up less space and lets you put more bags in one shipment or use a smaller box...either way saving you money on shipping. Secondly, since there's no air pocket, the fish don't get swirled around nearly as much during transport. There are also less wrinkles for them to get trapped in.

You should also expect a lost/delayed package or two once in a while...so don't overload your bags. I had one shipment that took 8 days to be delivered. 3 out of the four bags had live fish. The fourth one I'm guessing 1 died and sealed the fate of the rest.

Thanks, Emil!  This is the type of advice I am looking for.  I am planning to investigate the types of styro boxes pharmacies apparently receive medications in that need to be kept cool and see if I can custom make boxes from corrugated cardboard to work with these styros.  I am thinking about sending a box or two down to Texas. 

So, all I have to do is identify the liquid as water?  Doesn't anyone ask why one would want to mail water?


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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 05:52:09 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6qvidC35DQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thanks, Blair!  This was a very useful video as was a follow-up "rant" video by the same author explaining why not to mark the shipping box with "live fish".  Much appreciated.

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Re: Looking for Fish Shipping Tips
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 05:56:53 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6qvidC35DQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thanks, Blair!  This was a very useful video as was a follow-up "rant" video by the same author explaining why not to mark the shipping box with "live fish".  Much appreciated.
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