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Offline Steve

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Hospital tank set up
« on: October 29, 2012, 12:37:14 PM »
Wasn't sure where to post this so I guess here is as good as anywhere. I will probably be ready to stock one of my 55g's later this week so I want to have a hospital/quarantine tank ready to go in case needed. What sort of set up would be good for a hospital tank that you guys would suggest?

I've been doing some reading so tell me if this sounds about right....

10g tank
small HOB filter
Bubbler
No substrate
Maybe a pot or PVC tube just to add a hiding/comfort place

All the above seem about right? anything else?
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Re: Hospital tank set up
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 01:10:11 PM »
HOB or even a sponge would work - HOB might be easier unless you have several tanks and/or a spot to keep a sponge running so the bacteria stay alive.  HOB you could swap in part of the biomedia from your main tank filter maybe.

Terra cotta/clay pots work great.

If for a larger fish, you might want a 20 or 20 long for the hospital tank instead of a 10.  Otherwise sounds great, based on my limited experience.

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Re: Hospital tank set up
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 01:34:24 PM »
Biggest fish I will have will probably be close to 7"...I'm doing male peacocks but I'm trying to keep to the ones that only get around 7" at most. Think that would be too big for a 10 hospital tank? I don't mind buying a 20g for this is that would be better since the money difference is not much between a 10-20.

Also one other question I forgot. My tank I am going to stick JUST finished cycling this weekend. I have read that you shouldn't disturb the media in a freshly cycled tank for about 45 days. But if I get fish later this week and lets say one of them needs to be in time out or something in a the hospital tank, would taking a bit of the Matrix Bio out of the freshly cycled tanks filter cause any harm to that tank since it just cycled? I have both and Xp3 and a Xp4 on that tank if that makes a difference.

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Re: Hospital tank set up
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 02:04:27 PM »
I've never done a canister but I run sponges + HOBs on all my main tanks and I've moved either the HOB or the sponge filter or a bag of biomedia that was hanging in the HOB to another tank before with no perceptible issues.  Just not all the biomedia at once.  So, pulling a little of the bio media out of a canister is probably not going to cause a huge problem.

I don't know if you are starting out with smaller juvies or getting the fish full grown to start, but either way a 20 or 20 long would give you more room for your hospital tank, and like you said isn't much more $.  20s and 20 longs are $1/gallon at Petco seems like every few months now.  Plus I saw some decent deals on tanks at the GDAS auction and I'm sure there will be more at various auctions between now and end of the year.

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Re: Hospital tank set up
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 02:59:43 PM »
Okay thank you, I will go with a 20long then. I'm not starting with Juvies but not full grown either. Going to order them from Cichlid express and I think I'll be going with the 3"-4" ones they offer since they can be sexed at that size since I need to make sure they are all male.
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Re: Hospital tank set up
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 04:54:11 PM »
Keep in mind that even though your tank is "cycled" per your measurements now, once you add fish the bioload goes up and there will be some fluctuations. I presume you used something to create an initial "bioload" during this cycling period. How closely you created and maintained an actual load compared to the load from the fish you're adding will determine how much of a fluctuation or disruption to the parameters of the "cycled tank" you have now. Typically it's hard to go from 0 to 60. Depending on how many you intend to stock in the end, you might consider doing so in stages.

That said, while it can be made a science, it doesn't necessarily need to be. Once you have some experience the measuring of parameters isn't really necessary IMO, plus once you have a tank or two going, it's easy to easily kick-start additional tanks simply be swapping some filters around.

With respect to the hospital tank, when you go with a HOB or a sponge filter, if you have it running on your main tank for a while once you've got fish, setting up the hospital tank is as simple as filling it up with similar temperature water, putting a heater in it, and moving the filter over.

I do recall you had a beautiful background created, so if running the hospital filter on the main tank looks bad, instead you can just swap over some of the biomedia to a HOB and it's as simple as the previous paragraph. The bacteria that break down ammonia and nitrites adhere to a surface, thus biomedia is typically high in surface area and when you move it around between filters, you're moving part of the bacteria colony with it. Once I have one fishless cycled tank to start, I never actually cycle another one in that manner.
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Re: Hospital tank set up
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2012, 01:27:06 AM »
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I do recall you had a beautiful background created, so if running the hospital filter on the main tank looks bad, instead you can just swap over some of the biomedia to a HOB and it's as simple as the previous paragraph.

Yep that was my other main question Ron. Thank you.
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