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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Regalblue on March 17, 2014, 11:16:02 PM

Title: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: Regalblue on March 17, 2014, 11:16:02 PM
http://reefbuilders.com/2014/03/17/egg-rocker-cobalt-aquatics-addresses-niche-application/
Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: jkeeler on March 17, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Looks like Ziss tumblers

http://www.zissaqua.com/xe/

Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: rcombs on March 18, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
I was emailing back and forth with the creator of the Ziss tumbler. I was trying to get a group buy going on here. It did not happen in time. The creator emailed me a couple weeks later to notify me that he no longer ships to the US because he signed a contract with someone for US sales of the Ziss. Maybe it was "cobalt" who bound him? I do own a Ziss, and the cobalt looks IDENTICAL. The design was patent, so I don't seeing this being cobalts but instead ziss just reboxed and sold by cobalt. They are even the same size. Ziss sold them as 65 mm and 80 mm. I bought the 80 mm and love it. Cobalt advertises the same size as well.
Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: rcombs on March 18, 2014, 08:34:15 AM
The only issue I found with this tumbler: If for some reason you get some crud in the tumbler, it pushes all of the eggs and anything else that gets into the tumbler to the same area. This affected my hatch rate a little. Overall, I was happy with the tumbler. I think to make it better they could switch up the air supply stone so that it pulsates to create a little bit of a bounce to the eggs instead of the steady bubbles that push the eggs to a spot where they basically will "rock" but stay in same general spot. This would take away my issue I believe or at least minimize the contact time the eggs have with unwanted matter that found its way into the tumbler.
Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: African cichlid Keeper on March 18, 2014, 01:31:58 PM
I was emailing back and forth with the creator of the Ziss tumbler. I was trying to get a group buy going on here. It did not happen in time. The creator emailed me a couple weeks later to notify me that he no longer ships to the US because he signed a contract with someone for US sales of the Ziss. Maybe it was "cobalt" who bound him? I do own a Ziss, and the cobalt looks IDENTICAL. The design was patent, so I don't seeing this being cobalts but instead ziss just reboxed and sold by cobalt. They are even the same size. Ziss sold them as 65 mm and 80 mm. I bought the 80 mm and love it. Cobalt advertises the same size as well.

ziss still have them for sale on ebay
Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: rcombs on March 18, 2014, 01:44:54 PM
He still sells his ziss but he doesn't ship to united states anymore. I am betting its a brand change when it comes into the US. He patented the design. Cobalt can't take it without permission.
Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: rcombs on March 18, 2014, 01:52:27 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ziss-aqua-aquarium-egg-tumbler-zet-65-/121296022343?pt=AU_Pet_Supplies&hash=item1c3dce6b47&_uhb=1#shpCntId

http://reefbuilders.com/2014/03/17/egg-rocker-cobalt-aquatics-addresses-niche-application/

First is a ziss tumbler for sale on ebay.

Second link is the one posted in the beginning of this topic.

They both have the same pictures........  ??? :o
Title: Re: Cobalt egg tumbler
Post by: rcombs on March 18, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
They are same  :D