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Title: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 06, 2014, 07:58:40 PM
The Temp right now in Livonia is like -2 and -23 with the wind chill at 16mph...

 At 8am the temp is supposed to drop to -12 and -36 with wind chill.  This is some crazy weather!

 haven't seen this in long time...

 I keep hearing these creepy quiet popping noises coming from the roof.  :o

 Everyone else doing okay?

P.S. SO glad I got my Generator up and running smoothly.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Steve on January 06, 2014, 08:04:16 PM
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I keep hearing these creepy quiet popping noises coming from the roof

Luckily the voices in my head drown out the quiet noises from the attic :P
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 06, 2014, 08:21:38 PM
Luckily the voices in my head drown out the quiet noises from the attic :P

 Ah cool. so it's not just my 56 year old house.

 But the good thing is that the Addition where I have 10 tanks of 507 gallons totaling a gross weight of 4228.38lb
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: LoveTheFishies on January 06, 2014, 08:23:04 PM
Global warming.   :o
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 06, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
It's actually good that it is getting so cold,  it will turn that heavy wet snow into light powdery snow which results in less stress on the roof....
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 06, 2014, 08:30:57 PM
But the good thing is that the Addition where I have 10 tanks of 507 gallons totaling a gross weight of 4228.38 lbs on 2nd floor as built only about 15 years ago. So I could probably fit that much weight on one wall.
 Just did a little research and found out that a single vertical standing 2x4 can withstand some 4000 lbs and a room made of 2x10's at 16" centers (coding between some 10-35 years old) can withstand some 2000lbs + at any giving point. A room of 2x12's at 12" centers (coding after 2004) And most of the tanks are on the walls, Except for 2x40g breeders and 50g breeder all at the same spot within a 6.5' x 1.5 section towards the middle of the room.

 Most fo the snow started off nice and powder like. The second half though was a bit more wet like you said. I'm sure it will be fine. MSN Weather is saying that the humidity is like 75%

 S needless to say, I think that were good to go.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Ron on January 07, 2014, 08:20:05 AM
Andrew, were those static weights? As best I recall there is a significant difference between what the weight a floor can hold and the weight a floor can hold over an extended period of time.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 07, 2014, 09:33:40 AM
I'm assuming that the Joist data is probably Dynamic weight.

 But the 2x4 vertical compression strength seems to be accurate.

 http://www.woodbin.com/ref/wood/strength_table.htm
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Marty on January 07, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
I'm still trying to figure out who's using 2 x 12's 12" on center as code ;D
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 07, 2014, 11:17:04 AM
I know right. lol

 Depends on the Span of the 2x12's. But from what I've read it's only been since about 2004.

 But if the max safe span is to far for the build at 16 OC's they will move it to 12 OC's to increase the load capabilities.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Marty on January 07, 2014, 11:38:01 AM
Code for spans up to 14' is 2 x 10's at 16" on center.  Typically, the only reason you'd use 2 x 12's is to eliminate steel (I beam supports) in the basement.  Even then, it would have to be a really long span to go to 12" on center.  At that point, it would probably make more sense to use floor trusses instead of 2 x 12's
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 07, 2014, 11:45:08 AM
yeah, I don't know... lol ;D
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: danielratti on January 07, 2014, 01:57:37 PM
I some how ended up with ice dams on my roof... They are a joy.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 07, 2014, 02:34:25 PM
I have two in different spots and that's what is causing the popping noises...
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: danielratti on January 07, 2014, 03:34:20 PM
Watch for water!  >:(
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Steve on January 07, 2014, 04:26:28 PM
Had that problem in the past. Finally put some heating cables up a few years back and that took care of the ice dam/leak in the front room. Just have to be careful to not run them all the time, it's not good for the shingles.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 07, 2014, 04:45:12 PM
 Better Attic Insulation and venting will take care of that too. Which is next on our list for the spring.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: danielratti on January 07, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
Were not sure how we got ours we have over 6 inches of insulation and attic fans and when i go up there its always colder then a Eskimos butt.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: Mastiffman on January 07, 2014, 05:30:25 PM
6" over the rafters? or total?
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: danielratti on January 07, 2014, 06:37:09 PM
Over the rafters. There is a ton up there to be honest. They even put the 2" pink foam over the blown in that they put on the rolled out stuff.
Title: Re: WHAT is Up with the Weather????
Post by: four_by_ken on January 09, 2014, 01:36:44 PM
I hope the cold will help with the mosquitoes next year...  killem all!