Michigan Cichlid Association

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: breaktime on November 27, 2013, 08:40:44 PM

Title: Rookie Question
Post by: breaktime on November 27, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
What does F1 or F2 next to a fish name mean? Some sort of ranking?
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Steve on November 27, 2013, 08:47:41 PM
I'm sure others will chime in because I could be wrong, but I believe F1 means one generation away from wild caught, F2 means two generations from wild caught. At least I think that's how that works. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: PowerCerg One on November 27, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
That's correct, Steve.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: breaktime on November 27, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
ok thanks for clearing that up. I would of never guessed that.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Arturtle on November 27, 2013, 09:19:09 PM
I believe the F designation can also be used for line breeding/hybrids, but I am not positive.

For the most part it is used to designate generations from wild, as others have said.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Ogre44 on November 27, 2013, 09:40:06 PM
I believe that the F stands for Filial, which pertains to an offspring's relation to their parents.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: TrailerParkFishTanks on November 27, 2013, 10:21:37 PM
Also if you see WC next to the the name its wild caught.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: atmagoulick on November 28, 2013, 07:25:43 AM
Thanks,

I did not know that either.
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Ron on November 28, 2013, 08:33:49 AM
I believe that the F stands for Filial, which pertains to an offspring's relation to their parents.
And in the fish world we don't use the Filial system properly and only use it as a designation to the origin of wild caught fish.
Also if you see WC next to the the name its wild caught.
Or "F0".
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: Ogre44 on November 28, 2013, 08:51:42 AM
Or "F0".

I thought that just designated rude fish ::)
Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: jamarini on November 28, 2013, 09:21:26 AM
I believe the F designation can also be used for line breeding/hybrids, but I am not positive.

For the most part it is used to designate generations from wild, as others have said.

The F designation applies to the number of generations removed from the wild so, F0 means wild, F1 is the first generation tank raised and so on.  Knowing which generation a fish is helps in crudely understanding how much or how little gene diversity there likely is present in a strain.  It is believed that maintaining the wild traits is reinforced by keeping the gene pool diverse or, in other words, rotating new stock into one's breeding groups.  As certain species become generally common and breeders do not consciously mix in other strains of the same species to maintain a diverse gene pool, it's more common to see misshapen or deformed stock in succeeding generations.  That is believed in many cases to be caused by not maintaining a diverse gene pool. 

Title: Re: Rookie Question
Post by: breaktime on November 28, 2013, 09:29:02 AM
I believe the F designation can also be used for line breeding/hybrids, but I am not positive.

For the most part it is used to designate generations from wild, as others have said.

The F designation applies to the number of generations removed from the wild so, F0 means wild, F1 is the first generation tank raised and so on.  Knowing which generation a fish is helps in crudely understanding how much or how little gene diversity there likely is present in a strain.  It is believed that maintaining the wild traits is reinforced by keeping the gene pool diverse or, in other words, rotating new stock into one's breeding groups.  As certain species become generally common and breeders do not consciously mix in other strains of the same species to maintain a diverse gene pool, it's more common to see misshapen or deformed stock in succeeding generations.  That is believed in many cases to be caused by not maintaining a diverse gene pool.

And here I thought I was asking a silly question  :o..........  Good stuff I'm glad I asked