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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 12:15:07 PM

Title: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 12:15:07 PM
  I have decided to go with peacock cichlids, haps, corys, giant danios, and other fish suggest by the LFS. I am in need of help with decorating the tank. I am leaning towards using rocks, and possibly drift wood. Where would be a good place to find rocks, and what kind of rocks should I stay away from. Any suggetions will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 19, 2013, 12:18:26 PM
Good ol' Texas Holy rock is great for Africans.  It will help to raise pH.

Wood looks great, but it will slightly lower pH. 

I have both in my peacock tank.

Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on November 19, 2013, 12:36:33 PM
Goto any Landscaping supply, they should have various rocks, all types and sizes.  depending on what you want, you can always use field stone as well.  Like Ken said, Texas Holey rock is very good for cichlids.

If you want to go on the cheap - goto Home Depot / Lowes / Menards and check out thier sand.  You can usually find a 50lb bag of sand anywhere from $2.75 a bag.

Check out CL, there is always people selling decor on there.

Decor is all personal prefence...

Good Luck !
 
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
The Texas holey rock has lots of nooks and crannies for the fish to explore. It would do me some good to see other tanks for lets say inspiration ;)
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 01:27:34 PM


If you want to go on the cheap - goto Home Depot / Lowes / Menards and check out thier sand.  You can usually find a 50lb bag of sand anywhere from $2.75 a bag.





I am still un decided whether I want to go sand or gravel.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
Good ol' Texas Holy rock is great for Africans.  It will help to raise pH.

Wood looks great, but it will slightly lower pH. 

I have both in my peacock tank.


Ken I just saw your tank on here with the 6 pieces of driftwood that looks like one piece ............ very nice.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 19, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
Good ol' Texas Holy rock is great for Africans.  It will help to raise pH.

Wood looks great, but it will slightly lower pH. 

I have both in my peacock tank.


Ken I just saw your tank on here with the 6 pieces of driftwood that looks like one piece ............ very nice.

Thanks.  I need to get some updated picture put up in that thread.  I think I add some more holy rock since the last pictures were posted.

Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
Good ol' Texas Holy rock is great for Africans.  It will help to raise pH.

Wood looks great, but it will slightly lower pH. 

I have both in my peacock tank.






Ken I just saw your tank on here with the 6 pieces of driftwood that looks like one piece ............ very nice.

Thanks.  I need to get some updated picture put up in that thread.  I think I add some more holy rock since the last pictures were posted.




Do It I'd like to  see how it looks now. Whats holding the diftwood together?

Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 19, 2013, 02:42:15 PM
Its all stacked up together.

The fish LOVE it.  When the lights come on after being out for a while... you would think there are only a couple fish... they all hide in it at night.

Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: rcombs on November 19, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
Its all stacked up together.

The fish LOVE it.  When the lights come on after being out for a while... you would think there are only a couple fish... they all hide in it at night.

you got a pic of your tank ken? post the link. :) would like to see it. My parents are in Texas for the winter. I told em to go kick around the hills and fill up the RV will texas holey rock for me. Can't wait. They have a few locals they know down there that is going to help em. I want to add some big ones but not for the price.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 19, 2013, 03:35:21 PM
The progression of my tank can be seen here.

http://michigancichlid.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=2059.0

Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 04:06:32 PM
Its all stacked up together.

The fish LOVE it.  When the lights come on after being out for a while... you would think there are only a couple fish... they all hide in it at night.

you got a pic of your tank ken? post the link. :) would like to see it. My parents are in Texas for the winter. I told em to go kick around the hills and fill up the RV will texas holey rock for me. Can't wait. They have a few locals they know down there that is going to help em. I want to add some big ones but not for the price.


I'd be interested in getting some for my empty 125 gal tank if possible. :)
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 19, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
Over the winter I am going to be setting up a 40" tall tank.

Right now, I plan on stacking it up with holy rock.  But, if I change direction and "make my own"... I will have... 200lbs of holy rock for sale.

But this is not for a few months.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: rcombs on November 19, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Over the winter I am going to be setting up a 40" tall tank.

Right now, I plan on stacking it up with holy rock.  But, if I change direction and "make my own"... I will have... 200lbs of holy rock for sale.

But this is not for a few months.

I thought about making my own. Using dryloc and styrofoam, but wasnt sure if it would float. Could always glue the Styrofoam to a couple real rocks for anchor then dryloc it. What was the method you were going to try?
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 19, 2013, 04:59:12 PM
Beats me!!! ;D


I would still use real rock... but use something as filler to take up space so that I dont need as much... but yet still give a lot of hiding spaces.

Right now... thinking about cutting up a ton of PVC and gluing it all together... then piling the rock on top of it.  Just not sure I could hide all the PVC like I would want.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: rcombs on November 19, 2013, 05:12:32 PM
that would be interesting ken, BTW my name is Rickie. I seen this online. Maybe It would work.

http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/diy_ceramic_caves.php
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 05:22:11 PM
My aquarium set up is coming a couple days prior to xmas. I need to have my decor ducks in a row. I need to figure something out now. I will keep my eyes open and check out some landscaping places that are open. There is a place in Ohio where I bought large rocks for landscaping that I could go to.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: rcombs on November 19, 2013, 05:37:16 PM
My aquarium set up is coming a couple days prior to xmas. I need to have my decor ducks in a row. I need to figure something out now. I will keep my eyes open and check out some landscaping places that are open. There is a place in Ohio where I bought large rocks for landscaping that I could go to.

bought these from home depot. This is the setup I have in my 90 gallon. Just used what they call stepping stone and a couple cool looking bricks.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: TrailerParkFishTanks on November 19, 2013, 08:45:54 PM
Here's my tank. I used rocks from a landscaping place and a mixture of cichlid stones.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: TrailerParkFishTanks on November 19, 2013, 08:47:54 PM
I really believe in cichlid stones. They provide caves, and do displace a huge amount of water like regular rocks.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 19, 2013, 09:11:32 PM
I really believe in cichlid stones. They provide caves, and do displace a huge amount of water like regular rocks.


I really want to provide as many secluded areas as I can, while trying to make it look natural. How big is your tank? 125?
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: TrailerParkFishTanks on November 19, 2013, 11:23:39 PM
That one is a 125 but I've done similar aquascapes in  my 55 as well. I just recently changed to a sand substrate and the fish seem happier for it. I add a few taller plastic plants to help break up sightlines in the tank that will help if there is an aggressive fella in there. He don't chase what he can't see. The fish seem to like sifting and moving around sand, depending on what types you keep. Mine like it though. If your keeping peacocks some get more vibrant color on lighter substrate and backgrounds while others will get brighter against a darker substrate and background. In the end just go with what tackles your fancy though.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 20, 2013, 08:34:53 AM
Oh what the heck... I'll put my picture in here too.   ;D
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 20, 2013, 07:35:32 PM
Oh what the heck... I'll put my picture in here too.   ;D


Yes the more the merrier ;D
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: rcombs on November 20, 2013, 08:10:25 PM
Drift Wood and holy rock looks great together.  8) I can't wait to get my hands on some rock.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 20, 2013, 09:06:18 PM
I was at my LFS  and he had a shipment of texas holey rock but nothing tall enough. I want a piece that is at least 2/3 the height of my tank and other piece smaller as a secondary focal point.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 21, 2013, 07:47:19 AM
I found that stacking many small and medium pieces to get the exact shape you want is much easier and cheaper.

And it usually offers more hiding places
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 21, 2013, 02:54:01 PM
I found that stacking many small and medium pieces to get the exact shape you want is much easier and cheaper.

And it usually offers more hiding places


DO you caulk the pieces together or just leave them loose?
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 21, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Just leave them loose and use the bigger pieces as the base

Clear the gravel or sand out from underneath the lowest rocks so nothing can shift p
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 22, 2013, 03:12:27 PM
I think I'm going to cut a piece of cardboard the foot print of the tank and play around with the rock and see what I like. Now all I have to do is get ahold of some texas rock and play.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 22, 2013, 08:05:53 PM
I just bought my  First piece of Texas Holey Rock, a 40 lb piece.
Now what else can I put in with it ???  Decisions.....decisions.....
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 23, 2013, 07:47:53 AM
Easy...  more holy rock!
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 23, 2013, 03:03:19 PM
Easy...  more holy rock!

What I like about you ken straight to the point  ;D
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 26, 2013, 10:12:12 PM
Where is a good place to get fake plants at a good price? How we'll does silk plants hold up in a cichlid tank or should I just use plastic?
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: four_by_ken on November 26, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
I say go with plastic but by short ones medium ones tall ones and different shades of green also

(DAMN SPEECH TO TEXT )
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: LoveTheFishies on November 26, 2013, 10:45:11 PM
I've tried silk once.  They look nice out of the package,  but start to fray.  I was concerned the string may be eaten, so took it out.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: jcunningham0295 on November 26, 2013, 10:47:23 PM
I use plastic in all my tanks.  Ordered most from Petco online when they offer $15 or $20 off total order, plus free shipping on orders over $49.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 27, 2013, 09:14:45 PM
I use plastic in all my tanks.  Ordered most from Petco online when they offer $15 or $20 off total order, plus free shipping on orders over $49.


I'm hoping with the Christmas approaching Petco will offer the 15 or 20 off the order deal. I talked to someone, and they said they went to a craft store and bought plastic flowers and glues them to stone.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: Steve on November 27, 2013, 10:36:22 PM
I use silk in mine, looks more natural/realistic. They will start to fray a bit but it takes some time for that. I've had silk in my Mbuna tank for just over a year now and they are just starting to show a tiny bit of fray but nothing major yet.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 28, 2013, 09:21:37 AM
I use silk in mine, looks more natural/realistic. They will start to fray a bit but it takes some time for that. I've had silk in my Mbuna tank for just over a year now and they are just starting to show a tiny bit of fray but nothing major yet.
Good to know Steve thanks
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: mightieskeeper on November 28, 2013, 06:17:11 PM
Silk lasts years in the tank, used them in many tanks over the years.  Silk is cheaper and you get larger plant choices.
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: breaktime on November 29, 2013, 03:55:09 PM
Silk lasts years in the tank, used them in many tanks over the years.  Silk is cheaper and you get larger plant choices.

How would you clean silk plants? Or do you
Title: Re: Aquascaping
Post by: mightieskeeper on November 29, 2013, 11:21:29 PM
I use to take them out of tank and clean them with hand brush gently.