Michigan Cichlid Association

General Category => Old World => Topic started by: Kaia on September 15, 2013, 08:55:58 PM

Title: Trophs
Post by: Kaia on September 15, 2013, 08:55:58 PM
There are so many tropheus. Curious as to which is everyone's favorite? Too many to list on a poll..
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Post by: four_by_ken on September 15, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
Blue rainbow
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Post by: danielratti on September 15, 2013, 09:23:52 PM
The ones they sell at petsmart... They can be fed feeders.
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Post by: Stan M. on September 15, 2013, 09:54:14 PM
ikolas
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Post by: Regalblue on September 15, 2013, 10:08:42 PM
Red Bishop
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Post by: djlamonica on September 16, 2013, 02:05:07 PM
Polli blue eyed lyratail.  Although I've never seen in person.
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Post by: Super Turtleman on September 16, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
Moliro Red and Lufubus.
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Post by: jcunningham0295 on September 16, 2013, 10:26:13 PM
Purple lufubu and Ikola.
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Post by: auratus on September 17, 2013, 06:45:15 AM
Green murango  :D
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Post by: Sean on September 17, 2013, 07:23:58 AM
I like the juvenile look of duboisi after that, it would have to be blue rainbow
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Post by: Nick on September 18, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
Nkonde Yellow
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Post by: Kaia on September 22, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
I'm really liking the ilangi
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Post by: Rob S on September 22, 2013, 01:54:12 PM
Call me old fashion, but I like the Bemba Orange Flame.
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Post by: Ron on September 22, 2013, 01:55:54 PM
Call me old fashion, but I like the Bemba Orange Flame.
x2.
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Post by: Regalblue on September 22, 2013, 02:07:28 PM
Call me old fashion, but I like the Bemba Orange Flame.
The only reason I didn't list those as my favorite is because I currently have a group of them. But they are a close second.
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Post by: four_by_ken on September 23, 2013, 12:41:06 AM
I need to start Googling all these!
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Post by: four_by_ken on September 23, 2013, 09:02:42 AM
I'm really liking the ilangi

After Googling... these are pretty cool!!!

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Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on September 23, 2013, 09:41:37 AM
Definately - ilangi

Like Ken - I had to google all of these...
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Post by: jamarini on September 23, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
Iangi has been my long-term favorite but since I've had them for a few years now I've become fond of the Purple Rainbow from Lupota.  They're not very common but can be stunning in the right conditions.
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Post by: Kaia on September 26, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
I understand the ilangi is hard to come by and is endangered? I'm really considering seeking out a wild caught group.
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Post by: Regalblue on September 27, 2013, 12:15:21 AM
I understand the ilangi is hard to come by and is endangered? I'm really considering seeking out a wild caught group.
If it's endangered then why would you want a wild caught group? 
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Post by: Kaia on September 27, 2013, 12:21:11 AM
I understand the ilangi is hard to come by and is endangered? I'm really considering seeking out a wild caught group.
If it's endangered then why would you want a wild caught group?



That's just what I heard, I don't know if it's true. They are going to take them from the lake anyhow.
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Post by: jamarini on September 27, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
I would question your source.  It's unlikely that any species in Lake Tanganyika is truly endangered.  I checked the CITES (www.cites.org) list to see if they're listed there.  That's the international authority for documenting which species are officially considered endangered, protected or threatened.  Since none of the Tropheus variants are listed there, I would suspect what you heard is a rumor created by exporters or importers to artificially kick up demand (and consequently prices) or it's someone innocently passing on incorrect information.  The one other possibility is that because collecting along the Congo shoreline has been quite dangerous for more than a decade now due to the rebel insurgence in the remote eastern side of the country.  That may have been translated into the variant being labeled as "endangered".  It's much more likely that the fish collectors are the ones who are endangered!   There are sources of tank-raised T. moori Ilangi available so even if you're rightfully concerned about obtaining a wild group of a purportedly endangered species, you do have options.  But truthfully, without corroboration from known reliable sources, e.g. the CITES list or other credible sources, it's hard to conclude a species or variant is endangered.  If you do find a credible authority that publicly claims any species of Tropheus is officially endangered, I would appreciate knowing.  Thanks.
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Post by: Regalblue on September 27, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
http://www.carespreservation.com/priority_list.html

Ilangi are listed on C.A.R.E.S. as CEW (extinct in the wild ) by Ad Konings
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Post by: jamarini on September 27, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
Thanks for the C.A.R.E.S. reference, Blair.  I could only find T. moorii Ilangi (Kasaba Bay) on the At Risk list.  I wasn't able to find the CEW list.  There are three locations in the Lake that I am aware of where Ilangi have been collected (Kasaba Bay, Nkonde and Nkamba Bay) and there are two variants that collectors have exported, the yellow and the orange varieties.  I'm not familiar with the Kasaba Bay variant but I believe the yellow variety comes from Nkamba Bay and is the more highly sought variant, whereas the variant from Nkonde is the orange version.  Since these latter two variants are not specifically listed by C.A.R.E.S. or CITES, I am assuming these are not endangered or extinct in the wild.
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Post by: Kaia on October 20, 2013, 09:10:13 AM
Guess there's no wild caught group then. Heads up on anyone claiming to have a wild caught group huh...
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Post by: Marty on October 20, 2013, 12:56:04 PM
I got wild caught from Old World Exotics less than a year ago.
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Post by: hollywod12 on October 20, 2013, 01:10:44 PM
Guess there's no wild caught group then. Heads up on anyone claiming to have a wild caught group huh...
did  all your from the auction make it?
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Post by: djlamonica on October 20, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
LAA still have wild caught groups I believe mastiffman also has a large WC group.
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Post by: jcunningham0295 on October 20, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
You can still get Tropheus wc.  Just depends what you want to pay.
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Post by: Regalblue on October 20, 2013, 10:23:32 PM
Ilangi is what they're talking about,  not just any Tropheus
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Post by: jkeeler on October 20, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Wc Trophs on this list

Little Africa Aquatics
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1PXI4FKqLfcyB0lJ3vgjEqZWa97A2myHypaA6Md7xMMA
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Post by: Kaia on November 04, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
Guess there's no wild caught group then. Heads up on anyone claiming to have a wild caught group huh...
did  all your from the auction make it?

Out of 5 I have one remaining :(
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Post by: danielratti on November 04, 2013, 10:51:26 PM
bummer
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Post by: djlamonica on November 04, 2013, 11:09:03 PM
Defiantly a bit more challenging then your average cichlid.