Michigan Cichlid Association

General Category => Old World => Topic started by: Kaia on July 20, 2013, 01:02:44 AM

Title: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on July 20, 2013, 01:02:44 AM
So 2 of my girls just released babies 6 days ago and now 1 of the females is holding again? I thought they'd have a month before they would be ready again? Shes thin already!
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Marty on July 20, 2013, 01:31:37 AM
A lot of haps will breed frequently and have large broods if you take care of them.  Congrats!
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on July 20, 2013, 09:05:46 AM
No no! Not congrats lol... I'm afraid she is going to breed herself to death? It's only been 6 days?
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Marty on July 20, 2013, 12:17:29 PM
If you're concerned, strip the eggs from her mouth now so she can eat and recover.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: TrailerParkFishTanks on July 20, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
You can always use an egg tumbler, the female won't get as thin or weak and you can put her right back in the tank so she won't lose her spot in the pecking order.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: jcunningham0295 on July 20, 2013, 03:56:25 PM
I usually put my females in a mesh net for 10 days and make sure they are eating well before I release them into the tank.  This way I know they have eaten and rested before the male starts to harass them again.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Mission Man on August 31, 2013, 09:16:08 PM
How's the Ruby Green Fry doing?
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on September 01, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
They are great! At about an inch now.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Mission Man on September 01, 2013, 02:21:29 PM
They are great! At about an inch now.
That's great !!!
Looking at the pic, their eyes look red.  They're not albino are they?
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on September 01, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
They are not red, hard to get a good pic because they are quick. I think it was just a reflection of light.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on September 01, 2013, 07:36:28 PM
Couple more pics
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: LoveTheFishies on September 01, 2013, 08:43:26 PM
My fish won't stop and smile for the camera either.   :D
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on September 01, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
They look washed out and white in the photos but they're actually grey...
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: four_by_ken on September 03, 2013, 12:12:56 PM
They are getting to the size that the dominant male will start to show some color.

We got real lucky when we had troubles and lost our Ruby Greens... the fry that survived were 1 male and 3 females.  Hoping they "hook up" and we can get some more.

Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on September 03, 2013, 12:35:47 PM
They are getting to the size that the dominant male will start to show some color.

We got real lucky when we had troubles and lost our Ruby Greens... the fry that survived were 1 male and 3 females.  Hoping they "hook up" and we can get some more.

Is that a wise move - in-breeding ?
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Regalblue on September 03, 2013, 01:35:02 PM
They are getting to the size that the dominant male will start to show some color.

We got real lucky when we had troubles and lost our Ruby Greens... the fry that survived were 1 male and 3 females.  Hoping they "hook up" and we can get some more.

Is that a wise move - in-breeding ?
as long as the fry produced are good quality. 
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on September 03, 2013, 02:50:52 PM
They are getting to the size that the dominant male will start to show some color.

We got real lucky when we had troubles and lost our Ruby Greens... the fry that survived were 1 male and 3 females.  Hoping they "hook up" and we can get some more.

Is that a wise move - in-breeding ?
as long as the fry produced are good quality.

Hum - you learn something new everyday...
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Mission Man on September 03, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
I heard you're not supposed to breed past F4. That's when the deformities start to show. I try to introduce new bloodlines As often as possible.  It makes for healthier fish.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Ron on September 03, 2013, 05:34:18 PM
^Those are good generalizations.  :)
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on September 03, 2013, 07:44:19 PM
I heard you're not supposed to breed past F4. That's when the deformities start to show. I try to introduce new bloodlines As often as possible.  It makes for healthier fish.


Try? Come to find out Blair's ruby greens and my ruby greens both came from the same place. They are probably related. also when buying a group from a LFS they are probably siblings. Unless you get them from someone who has wild caught or someone from another state they are probably related lol
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Regalblue on September 03, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
I heard you're not supposed to breed past F4. That's when the deformities start to show. I try to introduce new bloodlines As often as possible.  It makes for healthier fish.
Explain Brichard & the Yellow Labidochromis then. ;)
http://cichlid-forum.com/articles/l_caeruleus.php
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Stuart Grant only collected a few specimens, but refused to mass-collect and export them because of the population's small numbers, fearing that they would be pushed into extinction. Then two Swedish collectors paying a visit to Stuart Grant noticed these beautiful, bright yellow mbuna in his tanks and requested that he collect and export some for them. The story is that when he declined, these two Swedes bribed some of his divers, who knew right where they were located. They then returned to Sweden with two yellow labs, unbeknownst to Grant

From what I have read, these two yellow labs were then given as a gift to Pierre Brichard, who was very impressed by them. This is where the story gets really interesting: Brichard then took them back to his fishing operation in Burundi, along Lake Tanganyika (of all places!) and bred some 20,000 fish, all related to that pair. Quite amazing. And he did this in less than six years time. Then, in 1986 he made them available to the public, selling them for a hefty price from what I hear. Brichard ended up making a good dollar off that pair, while Stuart Grant on Lake Malawi, who found the fish in the first place, was left holding the bag.
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: saddleproductions on October 06, 2013, 09:06:30 PM
I have 6 Ruby Greens I got about 5 weeks ago from an Aquabid auction.  Came from Geiler(?) in Florida.  They are just starting to show color at about 1.5"  Wanna trade a couple to try and prevent the line breeding?
Title: Re: Ruby green hap
Post by: Kaia on October 20, 2013, 09:07:01 AM
I would be willing to bet that they are all related anyhow unless they've been imported from the wild?