Michigan Cichlid Association

General Category => Old World => Topic started by: jwalser18 on June 07, 2013, 02:08:23 PM

Title: to hard of water?
Post by: jwalser18 on June 07, 2013, 02:08:23 PM

So, out the tap my water is like 8.0+

Will this be to hard for mbuna's? like it might even be higher.. Tested with the  api test i was up to like 60 drops and got bored.

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: four_by_ken on June 07, 2013, 02:13:07 PM

60 drops!?!?!?!?!?!

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: jwalser18 on June 07, 2013, 02:17:15 PM

I have an old school api test kit.. I tested water with mine and a brand new one.. same readings.. so I returned the new one. yeah It's like keep doing drops until it gets to this shade of color (i forget) maybe not 60.. but I remember at least 30+..

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: four_by_ken on June 07, 2013, 02:44:29 PM

Are we talking pH or hardness?


For the hardness you put in drops until it changes color.  For pH, you put in a certain number of drops and match the color on the chart.



 :o

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: Ron on June 07, 2013, 03:21:46 PM

Quote from: four_by_ken on June 07, 2013, 02:44:29 PM

Are we talking pH or hardness?


For the hardness you put in drops until it changes color.  For pH, you put in a certain number of drops and match the color on the chart.



 :o

I had the same thoughts, but believe the 8.0 mentioned is in "dGH" units.

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: jwalser18 on June 07, 2013, 04:39:02 PM

I'm in the office.. once I get home I'll figure out which it was.

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: jwalser18 on June 09, 2013, 12:13:00 PM

okay, def was doing the wrong test :o oops! water is at 8.3~

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: whiteram98 on June 10, 2013, 03:49:05 AM

my water is 8.6 so I used Seacams Discus Bufer to bring it down to 7.0-7.3 for raising Angels

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: four_by_ken on June 10, 2013, 10:05:12 AM

Quote from: jwalser18 on June 09, 2013, 12:13:00 PM

okay, def was doing the wrong test :o oops! water is at 8.3~

That kind if fish?

Are you still concerned?

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: jwalser18 on June 11, 2013, 11:23:37 AM

no 8.3 is fine. I must have read the wrong test, lol.

Title: Re: to hard of water?
Post by: Mastiffman on June 15, 2013, 07:26:17 PM

I'll be honest, I'm kind of Confused here...

 Gh (General hardness) will have the most affect on the Vibrancy of the African Cichlids Color and should be between 160-320 (clark scale)
 If we are talking Gh  Then 8.3 is not that high. If you multiply this factor by 17.9 Clark Scale units/ Degree your waters Gh is 148-149...

 If you are talking Ph, that is not hardness at all. That is Alkalinity of your water.

 Kh (Carbonate Hardness) is the measure of Carbonates and Bi-carbonates in the water that ultimately provide buffering capacity of the water. Or the ability to absorb acids to keep the Ph stable in times of ammonia spikes.

 Hope this helps.