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General Category => DIY => Topic started by: techjoe on March 20, 2013, 10:53:58 PM

Title: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 20, 2013, 10:53:58 PM
After reading all of Steve's posts and seeing his Styrofoam backgrounds I was inspired to try it myself.  Thanks Steve.  I done a lot of web surfing and came across some cool videos on YouTube that also helped me plan this background out.  I decided to build a slate style background.  But first I had to build a Styrofoam cutter.  I was able to find mostly all the parts for that around my work.  I built a table style cutter works like a band saw would heres a good link if anyone wanted to figure out how to build one.  http://www.nichromewire.biz/index.html. since this is my first one I decided to start small with a 30gal.I have been cutting a few hours at a time over the last three days and this is almost one half of the overall background.  I am using tooth picks to hold it together wile I make the rough model so I can go back latter to fine toon and detail things. 
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 20, 2013, 11:06:42 PM
I will try to up date my progress and add some more photos.  I should have taken pics of the back because I have completely inlaid my power head into it.  Since my computer crashed I have been using my phone so its a bit of a pain to type up long paragraphs.  Big thumbs little screen.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: four_by_ken on March 21, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
Looks like a great start!!

You said your powerhead is inside the back... once it is all together, can you still get to it for maintenance or replacement?
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 21, 2013, 12:40:43 PM
Yeah I can pull the power head out easily.  As far as replacing it the new one would have to be the same size to fit.  The hard part is pulling the tube off the filter I have to use a long pair of pliers.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: linuxrulesusa on March 21, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
At first I thought that was a cave, but it's an opening for the sponge filter.  Interesting.  Do you think the filter aspect will be reduced because of being partially enclosed?  Neat idea on the background.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 21, 2013, 01:16:09 PM
I don't think so.  Half the filter is wide open all of the bottom is open.  Really the only thing different then having it in the corner is that now there is not that tiny opening in the back ware all my distressed fish tend to mash themselves into.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: linuxrulesusa on March 21, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
I don't think so.  Half the filter is wide open all of the bottom is open.  Really the only thing different then having it in the corner is that now there is not that tiny opening in the back ware all my distressed fish tend to mash themselves into.

I hear you.  I took my Hydro IV out of my African tank for the time being because they were all fighting over the hiding space under it...put an AC110 HOB on the back for now and may add the sponge back in later if needed.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: jcunningham0295 on March 21, 2013, 01:21:08 PM
I don't think so.  Half the filter is wide open all of the bottom is open.  Really the only thing different then having it in the corner is that now there is not that tiny opening in the back ware all my distressed fish tend to mash themselves into.

I hear you.  I took my Hydro IV out of my African tank for the time being because they were all fighting over the hiding space under it...put an AC110 HOB on the back for now and may add the sponge back in later if needed.

Funny how they fight over the oddest of terrorties.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 21, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
Some different angles
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: jcunningham0295 on March 21, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
Looks good.  I might have to try and make one of these some day when I have more patience.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Steve on March 21, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
Looks like you're off to a good start. Planning on using Drylok or concrete? I find Drylok to be the better option IMO.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 21, 2013, 03:49:05 PM
Drylock for sure.  Thanks again Steve your DIY post inspired me to work with the Styrofoam.  I think I may build some stands and canopy's too down the road.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 23, 2013, 07:01:33 PM
I learned that I should have cut all the factory rough edges off. :-\  they don't line up well enough to completely come together at the middle seam.  I can square off the second half but the first half I glued together  and the glue is not so easily cut.  Here's how its looking
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Steve on March 23, 2013, 07:21:59 PM
Looks like it's progressing very well. Don't worry too much about that middle seam, it looks to be a pretty small seam so once you get it done and siliconed in the tank just run a bead of silicon over the seam and then touch it up with drylock after it dries and you will never see it, especially after a couple months after it starts to get a nice natural coat of green algae on it. You'll find the drylok doesn't adhere to silicone very well, but that seam is really small so I don't think you'll have much issues getting it to adhere to the small amount it will take to fill it.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 30, 2013, 10:46:27 PM
First mock up in the tank after dry locked.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Super Turtleman on March 31, 2013, 09:37:11 AM
It's not bad but IMO it looks to man-made for my tastes. It needs to be more random...
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Steve on March 31, 2013, 11:15:12 AM
One thing you can try is to take a heat gun and go over it with some heat. That will add some nice realistic rock texture to the foam as well as give the edges a bit more of a natural look as well. Just don't put too much heat to it though because it's pretty easy to shrink the foam with too much heat. Test out on a scrap piece first so you know how much heat is too much.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on March 31, 2013, 03:33:31 PM
Yeah I agree it needs some more randomness.  For my first attempt I am happy with it.  I managed to hide a lot of filter components.  The next one I want to work in a spot to hide a heater allowing water flowing around it but not enough space for fish to get into.  Also try to slim it down some cause it does take up a lot of space.  For this tank I am using as a breeder so it is not over stocked.  I would like to leave some glass exposed and play with lighting.  I have a few more test runs to do before my main tank.  Hope to improve alone the way.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Super Turtleman on April 01, 2013, 05:53:36 PM
It's definitely a good job for your first try. I haven't tried it yet so I can't talk much. Lol.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on April 04, 2013, 05:37:22 PM
All done.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on April 04, 2013, 09:20:07 PM
A dew shots from the other angle.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: LoveTheFishies on April 04, 2013, 10:30:43 PM
Looks nice.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: techjoe on April 04, 2013, 11:59:56 PM
Lights out.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: NorthernAquatic on April 05, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
Looks cool to me.  :)
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Steve on April 05, 2013, 01:58:14 AM
Looks good. It'll look real nice after a couple months when some algae starts on it. Took mine about 3 months to get nice and natural looking.
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: iamrocha on April 06, 2013, 01:47:06 AM
looks awesome id  buy 1  :)
Title: Re: my first attempt at a 3-D background
Post by: Super Turtleman on April 08, 2013, 02:33:28 PM
Nice job.

Keep an eye on those fish if they're "hiding" at the top. Hard to tell from pics.