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Title: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
So, in my quest for a Muzi... I started to think about what other fish are difficult to find, but highly sought after.

So, what other fish are out there that you dont see and just have to snatch up when you do come across them?

Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 11:00:15 AM
A Red Peacock,   no wait a true " RED" peacock !    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 11:02:22 AM
A Red Peacock,   no wait a true " RED" peacock !    ;D ;D ;D

Now, THAT was F'in funny.
 ;D
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Regalblue on January 31, 2013, 12:20:15 PM
Ramsdeni....  I've been keeping Cichlids for over 13yrs & have yet to see one.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Frontboy7 on January 31, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
Labidochromis textilis
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: danielratti on January 31, 2013, 12:29:26 PM
Labidochromis textilis

Very common up here weird.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Jaws22 on January 31, 2013, 12:41:07 PM
Labidochromis textilis
Always wanted some of those.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: linuxrulesusa on January 31, 2013, 12:41:58 PM
If I had an open tank and the price was under $75...probably a gulper cat.  But no one has them around here or they're $150+.

If I found a breeding pair/trio of L134 leopard frog plecos, I'd grab them.  But...I don't know that they're that rare.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
gulper cat - This fish will not win any beauty contests..  What do you feed that -Small dogs ? :o

What about a Blue Eye Pleco.....

I had a couple 15 years ago but I have not seen them around anywhere...
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 01:03:07 PM
I think hard to get. Depends on your location just my expierance. Rare is just that. I hope you find the munzi ken. Id like to se e those.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: African cichlid Keeper on January 31, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
gulper cat - This fish will not win any beauty contests..  What do you feed that -Small dogs ? :o

What about a Blue Eye Pleco.....
I had a couple 15 years ago but I have not seen them around anywhere...

Fantastic Fins has one for 700.00...  :o
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 01:28:59 PM
Must be a large one...   they are so cool looking....
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Regalblue on January 31, 2013, 01:32:25 PM
Labidochromis textilis
How about you settle for some Experatus.  ;)
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 01:40:57 PM
Ramsdeni....  I've been keeping Cichlids for over 13yrs & have yet to see one.

Thats a nice looking fish.  Never heard of it before.  Looks to grow quite big.



If I found a breeding pair/trio of L134 leopard frog plecos, I'd grab them.  But...I don't know that they're that rare.

I have always liked the strange plecos.  I just am too cheap to buy them.  After I took my little break from fish, I was surprised on how some that were once so expensive are not reasonable.  Then others are the opposite.

If I had an open tank and the price was under $75...probably a gulper cat.  But no one has them around here or they're $150+.

Hmmm... I thought gulper cat just referred to the big cats.  But, now I see its an actual type of catfish.  Pretty strange looking.  I'll have to find out the story on these.  They gulp air, or are those pictures really a belly that full of some kind of food?


What about a Blue Eye Pleco.....


I used to have one too.  I think I paid $25 for it at the time and that was a lot.


I hope you find the munzi ken. Id like to se e those.

Its a mission now for my wife and I.  I think we want to get a Gold Head and also a Gold head Muzi.  I know someone that has at least a Gold Head, if not also a Muzi... but he would sell his son off before the fish.

Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 01:42:33 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 01:44:38 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?

So why post it here?   :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 01:45:22 PM
lazy... 8)
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: African cichlid Keeper on January 31, 2013, 01:46:10 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?

Nope A yellow blaze - otopharynx lithobate cichlid and a  sulferhead peacock cichlid-   Aulonocara maylandi
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 01:46:56 PM
Can they be put in the same tank together ?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 01:54:49 PM
Did you see the pictures I posted of the gold heads. I'm going t be tearing he tank apart Saturday morning go catch a few for. Someone if your interested. I will sell one or a few more.   Also no the blaze is a different species
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 02:00:57 PM
DKCOH62. What is your icon picture? Curiousity since we have been on the compresseipes thang for so long
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 02:08:29 PM
The BS answer is it is a fish in my tank (in my dreams),  the real answer it is a picture that I found while doing a google search.  These have quickly becoming my favorite fish.  I just purchased an inkfin Calvus and a Gold Calvus and they are now my favorite fish in my Male Show Peacock tank....

I know - they are not peacocks.  But they are cool as heck !
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 02:09:55 PM
We have a white, a black and a red fin.  I have always liked them.  Really want that damn Muzi now though.


Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
How big are your Gold head comps,  I might be interested in one as well?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 02:18:01 PM
They are 2 inches but don't think I have any left at this point. I wasn't. Even able to give ken a exact answer on how many I have left for sale.  Will let you know
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 02:20:44 PM
If you have any left and after you have satified other people who asked before I,  I would be interested?  Price is ???
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Ron on January 31, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?

So why post it here?   :o

 ;D
If you want it split to keep the original thread on track, just holler.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
I'm good !  unless someone else wants too...Thanks for asking though !
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: linuxrulesusa on January 31, 2013, 02:29:56 PM
gulper cat - This fish will not win any beauty contests..  What do you feed that -Small dogs ? :o


From what I read, anything up to same length, possibly bigger is fair game.  :) 



If I found a breeding pair/trio of L134 leopard frog plecos, I'd grab them.  But...I don't know that they're that rare.

I have always liked the strange plecos.  I just am too cheap to buy them.  After I took my little break from fish, I was surprised on how some that were once so expensive are not reasonable.  Then others are the opposite.


Yep, seems to fluctuate.  At the moment I'm shooting to get some that don't grow too large (under 5"), and would be happy for life in a 24x12 tank in a pair or trio.  And have nice patterns.  And don't bankrupt me (so no L46 zebras).  :)


If I had an open tank and the price was under $75...probably a gulper cat.  But no one has them around here or they're $150+.

Hmmm... I thought gulper cat just referred to the big cats.  But, now I see its an actual type of catfish.  Pretty strange looking.  I'll have to find out the story on these.  They gulp air, or are those pictures really a belly that full of some kind of food?


They gulp whatever food you can put in with them.   http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/species.php?species_id=961  Also some threads on MFK about them eating arowanas and such.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: African cichlid Keeper on January 31, 2013, 02:31:46 PM
Can they be put in the same tank together ?

Maybe
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 02:34:40 PM
A fish I used to see 10+ years ago that I dont see anymore is a Black Arrowana.  But, I havent been looking for one either.

I only saw them small.  Never a large one.

That would be a cool fish to have.

But, they probably look nothing like they do when they are small once they grow big.

Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 02:36:09 PM
Try for the royal xyano pleco. Check spelling on that. Pretty close to the zebra.  Picture of one I sold a few months ago. Got it at. Fantastic fins
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: linuxrulesusa on January 31, 2013, 02:38:40 PM
A fish I used to see 10+ years ago that I dont see anymore is a Black Arrowana.  But, I havent been looking for one either.

I only saw them small.  Never a large one.

That would be a cool fish to have.

But, they probably look nothing like they do when they are small once they grow big.

Here's a guy who has one (on another site I frequent), no idea where he got is but has a pic to check out of a decent sized one.  http://greatlakesaquaria.com/index.php?/topic/3928-who-here-is-into-arowana/
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: linuxrulesusa on January 31, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
Try for the royal xyano pleco. Check spelling on that. Pretty close to the zebra.  Picture of one I sold a few months ago. Got it at. Fantastic fins

Quite a nice fish.  Happen to recall the L# on it?  I'm getting nothing when I google what you typed, sorry.  :)
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
A fish I used to see 10+ years ago that I dont see anymore is a Black Arrowana.  But, I havent been looking for one either.

I only saw them small.  Never a large one.

That would be a cool fish to have.

But, they probably look nothing like they do when they are small once they grow big.

Here's a guy who has one (on another site I frequent), no idea where he got is but has a pic to check out of a decent sized one.  http://greatlakesaquaria.com/index.php?/topic/3928-who-here-is-into-arowana/

Cool fish!
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 02:55:38 PM
Royal rio xingu. Either L333 or L357. From what I was able to find on google but I don't think it was a 3 number when I bought it.   I should start keeping list
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: linuxrulesusa on January 31, 2013, 03:04:24 PM
Royal rio xingu. Either L333 or L357. From what I was able to find on google but I don't think it was a 3 number when I bought it.   I should start keeping list

Thanks.  L333 is one of the ones I'm going to look at tonight.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 03:17:47 PM
It was nice think I paid 55 at FF for it. Was mean for being such a little thang.  Closest id ever get to the zebra. 
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: GrizzlysDad on January 31, 2013, 03:47:22 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?

Nope A yellow blaze - otopharynx lithobate cichlid and a  sulferhead peacock cichlid-   Aulonocara maylandi

Sulfur Head is not exclusively meant towards an Aulonocara maylandi. The Protomelas spilonotus from Mara Rocks is also known as "Sulfur Head".
Also, a Yellow Blaze does not necessarily mean the O. lithobates since there is a Cynotilapia afra variant that is commonly called Yellow Blaze.
Therefore your statement is erroneous due to being factually incomplete.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: GrizzlysDad on January 31, 2013, 03:53:10 PM
Can they be put in the same tank together ?

Maybe

 ::)
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: African cichlid Keeper on January 31, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?

Nope A yellow blaze - otopharynx lithobate cichlid and a  sulferhead peacock cichlid-   Aulonocara maylandi

Sulfur Head is not exclusively meant towards an Aulonocara maylandi. The Prormelas spilonotus from Mara Rocks is also known as "Sulfur Head".
Also, a Yellow Blaze does not necessarily mean the O. lithobates since there is a Cynotilapia afra variant that is commonly called Yellow Blaze.
Therefore your statement is erroneous due to being factually incomplete.

^^^  :P   :P
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: African cichlid Keeper on January 31, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
Can they be put in the same tank together ?

Maybe

 ::)

 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: GrizzlysDad on January 31, 2013, 04:05:46 PM
Question that is not related to this posting:  is a Yellow Blaze the same thing as a Sulfer head ?

Nope A yellow blaze - otopharynx lithobate cichlid and a  sulferhead peacock cichlid-   Aulonocara maylandi

Sulfur Head is not exclusively meant towards an Aulonocara maylandi. The Prtormelas spilonotus from Mara Rocks is also known as "Sulfur Head".
Also, a Yellow Blaze does not necessarily mean the O. lithobates since there is a Cynotilapia afra variant that is commonly called Yellow Blaze.
Therefore your statement is erroneous due to being factually incomplete.

^^^  :P   :P

So did you learn anything, or are you just gonna stick your tongue out?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 04:05:58 PM
OK, now we can separate the conversations.  Hahahahaha

(since I have no idea what the hell he is talking about anymore)
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: GrizzlysDad on January 31, 2013, 04:11:42 PM
OK, now we can separate the conversations.  Hahahahaha

(since I have no idea what the hell he is talking about anymore)

Sorry for the derail Ken. The original question would be a good topic for a separate thread for learning purposes.
The problem with those types of "common names" are that they can be attributed to many different fish.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Ron on January 31, 2013, 04:15:32 PM
OK, now we can separate the conversations.  Hahahahaha

(since I have no idea what the hell he is talking about anymore)
Too late. My offer existed when there was only 1/2 as many replies to sort through as there are now.  :P

Sorry for the derail Ken. The original question would be a good topic for a separate thread for learning purposes.
The problem with those types of "common names" are that they can be attributed to many different fish.
I'd be for a system where it's 3 strikes and your banned for anyone who uses common names.

... JK of course.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: GrizzlysDad on January 31, 2013, 04:18:29 PM
I'm kinda bored so I will start a new thread relating to this subject.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Helloitsme on January 31, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Since this thread seems to have taken all kinds of twists and turns..., does anyone know of any catfish that get kind of big that have small mouths and are not predatory. Or perhaps any other fish that gets kind of big and is not mean?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on January 31, 2013, 05:01:41 PM
Since this thread seems to have taken all kinds of twists and turns..., does anyone know of any catfish that get kind of big that have small mouths and are not predatory. Or perhaps any other fish that gets kind of big and is not mean?

Why would you not start a new thread for this?  Probably get a lot more answers and views.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Ron on January 31, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
Since this thread seems to have taken all kinds of twists and turns..., does anyone know of any catfish that get kind of big that have small mouths and are not predatory. Or perhaps any other fish that gets kind of big and is not mean?
Pangasianodon hypophthalmus would fit your requirements.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Helloitsme on January 31, 2013, 06:00:26 PM
Since this thread seems to have taken all kinds of twists and turns..., does anyone know of any catfish that get kind of big that have small mouths and are not predatory. Or perhaps any other fish that gets kind of big and is not mean?

Why would you not start a new thread for this?  Probably get a lot more answers and views.

Good idea. To answer your question though, because this thread was already so confusing I thought I'd muck it up a little more!
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 06:13:40 PM
Blah blah blah blah !   no matter just got back from picking up a Yellow Blaze, Electric Blue and Electric Yellow to round out my Male Show Peacock / Hap / Tanganyika tank.     
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
You buy a lot of fish DK. How big is that tank
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: djlamonica on January 31, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Well there africans you just put as many as you can in one tank size means nothing.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: danielratti on January 31, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
Well there africans you just put as many as you in one tank size means nothing.

 :o I would not encourage this.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 09:01:52 PM
Well there africans you just put as many as you in one tank size means nothing.

I can see about 20 post quoting this staement. I do hope you were joking. When you said that if that is true I can down size all my tanks to one 50 breeder.  Very cost effective method
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on January 31, 2013, 10:11:29 PM
55 gallon and I just hit my limit with 23 2" Peacocks and Haps.  The plan is to get the other 55 going so I can move some fish over to that when they start getting to large for this one tank.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Regalblue on January 31, 2013, 11:08:04 PM
I'm looking for the elusive OB Magunga FulbornAhli



:P
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: danielratti on January 31, 2013, 11:15:53 PM
Challenge accepted.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: gannmann101 on January 31, 2013, 11:23:41 PM
Try exoticaquaria.  I've never seen or heard of that species before. They have some strang stuff on their site
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Super Turtleman on February 01, 2013, 03:52:03 AM
Holy derailments Batman!!! And some rude comments too.   ???

I'd like to find some Williamsi North Makonde that are impervious to my malfunctioning heaters.   :P
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Helloitsme on February 01, 2013, 04:15:45 AM
Holy derailments Batman!!!

LOL!!!
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: four_by_ken on February 01, 2013, 08:12:41 AM
Holy derailments Batman!!! And some rude comments too.   ???

I'd like to find some Williamsi North Makonde that are impervious to my malfunctioning heaters.   :P

Those are pretty neat.  Do they all have the blue lips?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: djlamonica on February 01, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
I'm looking for the elusive OB Magunga FulbornAhli



:P

I found these I believe I saw one at (insert LFS) labeled mixed africans and guess what lucky for you they are always on sale!

And if you want to buy local I believe Alan has some ;  )
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Frontboy7 on February 01, 2013, 12:09:39 PM
Labidochromis textilis

Very common up here weird.

Where? Do you have them at your store?  Help a brother out!
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Frontboy7 on February 01, 2013, 12:20:23 PM
Labidochromis textilis
How about you settle for some Experatus.  ;)

I have seen a blue textilis but I'm wondering if it is a man made line.  The textilis I'm interested in have a pattern of small yellow and blue horizontal stripes. This will give the fish an overall green looking appearance. The dorsal fin is mainly blue. (referencing the Cichlid-Forum)  I haven't been able to find any of them any where.
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: Regalblue on February 01, 2013, 01:36:05 PM
Labidochromis textilis
How about you settle for some Experatus.  ;)

I have seen a blue textilis but I'm wondering if it is a man made line.  The textilis I'm interested in have a pattern of small yellow and blue horizontal stripes. This will give the fish an overall green looking appearance. The dorsal fin is mainly blue. (referencing the Cichlid-Forum)  I haven't been able to find any of them any where.
well then How about some Melanochromis Joanjohnsonae then?
Title: Re: Hard to get fish
Post by: JeffroM on February 02, 2013, 01:38:03 AM
I haven't looked for a while but a true all black sailfin Molly was difficult to find.  Use to be a staple in the fish hobby but now they are all mixed to create crappy strains.