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General Category => Old World => Topic started by: four_by_ken on January 24, 2013, 07:32:51 AM

Title: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on January 24, 2013, 07:32:51 AM
So... my wife wants to try breeding these fish.  Not necessarily to sell, but just to do it.

We got 8 of them.  2 Males.  1 we are not sure about.  5 females.

Right now they are set up in a 20 gallon tank and doing very well.  The idea was to move them to another tank mid to late summer or so.  But they are growing so fast, I dont think I have that much time.  The dominate male is already showing color on his face and fins.  I am very surprised/happy that this is happening so fast.  It looked like a gold fish tank when we first got them.

I think I would like to move our 85 gallon Peacock tank and use it for the Albus.  Which also opens the door to get a bigger peacock tank. 8)

But, we will see what happens.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: Regalblue on January 24, 2013, 09:51:59 AM
How about some pictures?
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on January 24, 2013, 10:05:37 AM
Been meaning to take pictures with the good camera of all our fish... but just havent done it.

I cant get a good picture for shit with my cell phone.

These are not our fish, but this is what the adults should look like.  And what our dominate juvenile male currently looks like.

Ours are the Kande Island ones.... there are a few out there and they can look quite different.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on January 24, 2013, 10:06:43 AM
The tails should be a red/pink mixed with blue.  The face should be a real light metallic like blue.  The body will be a silver to gold like color.

I hope.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: Regalblue on January 24, 2013, 10:41:01 AM
Those look nice.  I had some Red Caps,  that I bought from Ron, a couple years ago. I used to like it when the sun beemed in the windows & would hit the male.

IMO the Lethrinops are an under appreciated genus.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on January 24, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
Those look nice.  I had some Red Caps,  that I bought from Ron, a couple years ago. I used to like it when the sun beemed in the windows & would hit the male.

IMO the Lethrinops are an under appreciated genus.

We like them.  They are different.  Kind of a strange shape face.  Swimming around gulping and spitting sand all over the place.  Pretty peaceful.  Lots of color (I hope).  And the color is a little different shade than a lot of peacocks.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: jkeeler on January 24, 2013, 12:05:57 PM
I like the Lethrinrops too....would love to find some Lethrinops sp. "Red Cap" (Itungi).
These are nice too...
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: jcunningham0295 on January 24, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
Will be  a nice looking group.  I agree with Blair, they are under appreciated.  I have a group of nine Lethrinops "Red Cap" in a 40 breeder I am going up.  Already starting to see the dominant male take his role.  They are about 2.5" right now.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: danielratti on January 24, 2013, 12:50:37 PM
I've got black fins 4.out of 4 were males what luck
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on February 22, 2013, 01:59:52 PM
Well, the first female is holding as of yesterday!!!

That didnt take long.

 8)
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: jcunningham0295 on February 22, 2013, 09:06:18 PM
Awesome.  These are very cool fish.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: auratus on February 23, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
Great news on the breeding!  Kinda remind me of Protomeleus with a strange face especilly remind me of my Tangerine tigers
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: Regalblue on February 24, 2013, 02:15:57 AM
Congratulations Ken
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on February 24, 2013, 10:42:29 AM
We have a trio of Ruby Peacocks in with them.  Going to move them into their own tank so the Albus can have the tank to themselves.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 04, 2013, 09:50:48 AM
We took the Ruby Peacocks out and also the one Albus that had a black tail.  We didnt want that kind, so into the other tank she goes.

This is the fry condo that we are using.  They are covered up with slate and we'll see if it works to keep the fry safe.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: Regalblue on March 04, 2013, 01:28:23 PM
Your fry condo has holes that the fry can escape from...
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 04, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
Your fry condo has holes that the fry can escape from...

Thanks for the heads up.   :P


I am hoping they can come an go, but still have a safe place to hide.  With the slate around it, they should feel safe.  If it doesnt work as I am hoping this time, we will separate and strip the female next time.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: Regalblue on March 04, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
Or you could set up another small tank & use the condo to house the female in the new tank .  ;)  The fry can leave momma & be protected from her, if She gets hungry.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 04, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
Or you could set up another small tank & use the condo to house the female in the new tank .  ;)  The fry can leave momma & be protected from her, if She gets hungry.

I just set up a tank to get the Ruby Peacoks out!  Ugh. 
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: Regalblue on March 04, 2013, 03:06:06 PM
Or you could set up another small tank & use the condo to house the female in the new tank .  ;)  The fry can leave momma & be protected from her, if She gets hungry.

I just set up a tank to get the Ruby Peacoks out!  Ugh. 
Eh,  What's one more Lol
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 08, 2013, 11:37:49 AM
Here is how I set up the fry condos.  I have sense changed it so that they are in the front corners so that we can see inside them.

Its the top tank in the rack.

I am thinking any day now we should see what happens.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: jcunningham0295 on March 08, 2013, 11:57:05 AM
Looks good.  Nice setup.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 12, 2013, 04:52:55 AM
As of yesterday we have fry! There were 6 of them and 3 remain.   :-\

The female is doing a good job of keeping all the others away.  The fry seem to hang in the "condos"

But since three were already ate, I don't think we will do this again next time.  Will probably pull  her out.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 12, 2013, 10:13:18 AM
Wife says she can only find one of them now. 

Bummer.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 12, 2013, 10:16:03 AM
Just cant capture the color on the male with my cell phone.

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 12, 2013, 10:17:16 AM
This is what I ended up doing with the condos so that we could see the fry.

Too bad the fry still ventured out to be eaten. 
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: PJ on March 15, 2013, 11:55:08 AM
i have a wc breeding group of green cap albus they are awesome the color is amazing ive had a few succesful breedings and currently have a female holding anyone interested in some fry let me know i will part with a few
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: linuxrulesusa on March 15, 2013, 12:05:17 PM
i have a wc breeding group of green cap albus they are awesome the color is amazing ive had a few succesful breedings and currently have a female holding anyone interested in some fry let me know i will part with a few

Start a new thread for the 'for sale' part of the above and I'm sure there would be some interest.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: PJ on March 15, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
"NEW ON HERE"  :) ok i will thanks
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 19, 2013, 07:56:26 AM
Keeping an eye on the females... going to take her out this time in hopes of keeping the fry alive.  Fry condos were a failure.   >:(
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on March 30, 2013, 08:37:08 AM
We had one fry survive!  Saw it last night.

Didn't see it for more than a week.  Guess that's why it survived.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: LoveTheFishies on March 30, 2013, 10:00:43 AM
I have alot of holey rock in my 69g bowfront, and had 2 fry make it when I couldn't get mama out.  It's been 3 weeks, so the quick and smart survive.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus
Post by: four_by_ken on April 23, 2013, 08:29:09 AM
They have been moved to a 150 gallon tank and some clown loaches added as tank mates.

The color of the two males is already increasing with just a tank change.

http://youtu.be/ND4iKD_j-XY

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 02, 2013, 08:04:02 AM
We have a female holding again!!!


Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: jcunningham0295 on May 02, 2013, 10:37:28 AM
We have a female holding again!!!




Congrats.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 02, 2013, 10:39:23 AM
We have a female holding again!!!




Congrats.

Thanks.  Going to use the hang on baby tank this time.  See if we can get some to survive.  They were all ate last time due to my own stupidity.
  ;)
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 06, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
I really need to get some new pictures and maybe video after a water change.  All 3 males were as colorful as I have seen!

They are loving this new 150 gallon tank!!
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 15, 2013, 07:53:55 AM
They dont like clown loaches, I think.  Lost 2 females from what I think is stress.  Took the clowns out as soon as it was noticed.  One female died the next day and one last night.

 :(
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: Crfish on May 15, 2013, 08:44:14 AM
Sorry to hear that :(  sounds as of late that clown loach are the culprits to quite a few deaths. Dang it Pennywise!
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 20, 2013, 07:18:43 AM
Tank seems to be doing better. 

The holding female had 8-9 fry.  So... hopefully they all survive.  They are in a 20 gallon by themselves now.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: jcunningham0295 on May 20, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
Tank seems to be doing better. 

The holding female had 8-9 fry.  So... hopefully they all survive.  They are in a 20 gallon by themselves now.

Congrats Ken.  I wonder of that is normal brood size.  I get about the same out of my "Red Caps".
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 20, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
Tank seems to be doing better. 

The holding female had 8-9 fry.  So... hopefully they all survive.  They are in a 20 gallon by themselves now.

Congrats Ken.  I wonder of that is normal brood size.  I get about the same out of my "Red Caps".


Our first one.. might have been the same female... cant really tell.... had 6.  But those all were ate in my failed experiment.  >:(

These are still pretty small.  Females are 2-3".  3" would be pushing it... close to 2".  Males are 3" and all three really starting to show some great color.  Cant wait for them to get bigger.


Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on May 20, 2013, 12:29:34 PM
Remember - put me down for a Male juvie... ;)

Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on May 21, 2013, 08:46:25 AM
Remember - put me down for a Male juvie... ;)

We'll probably keep any females and the males will have to find a new home.
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on October 15, 2013, 08:52:43 AM
Well... another female holding. 

But, we lost a male.  We dont get it.  He started breathing hard one day and was dead the next.

We put the 8 or so fry/barely juvenile into the 150 with the adults.  So far so good.  All survived the night.

The holding female is now in the 20 gallon by herself and there are still a batch of fry in the "overflow" holding tank on the side of the 20 gallon.

Hopefully all goes well!
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: Maize-N-Blue-D on October 15, 2013, 11:48:26 AM
Well... another female holding. 

But, we lost a male.  We dont get it.  He started breathing hard one day and was dead the next.

We put the 8 or so fry/barely juvenile into the 150 with the adults.  So far so good.  All survived the night.

The holding female is now in the 20 gallon by herself and there are still a batch of fry in the "overflow" holding tank on the side of the 20 gallon.

Hopefully all goes well!

Remember - I still want a male.... ;D
Title: Re: Lethrinops Albus (video 4-23-13)
Post by: four_by_ken on October 28, 2013, 09:08:48 AM
The latest female was stripped a few days ago... 20+ fry!!!!

Excellent.  May have another one holding now too.

We put the fry from 6 months or so ago into the 150 with the others.  So far so good!