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Title: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 03:15:46 AM
So, I just bought a new to me used 100 gallon. I am going to put it where my set up and running 60 gallon is now. The 60 needs to be moved across the living room (about 12 feet) and left up and running while I set up the 100 before I transfer the fish. What would be the best and easiest way to move the 60? I have hardwood floors, if that factors into the equation at all. I was thinking of getting some of those furniture sliders "As seen on TV" and incorporating them somehow for the move.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Regalblue on January 15, 2013, 06:41:51 AM
I'm not psychic but I see a 100% water change in your 60s future...  You're going to have to break it down & move it.  Just keep all the substrate & filter media fully submerged & set it back up ASAP.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 07:12:20 AM
Yeah, that's the only option I've come up with too. I was hoping not to have to catch all the fish and keep them in buckets while I did so, though.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: saji1986 on January 15, 2013, 07:17:42 AM
I just went through a similiar situation. I moved a 65 gallon to make room for a new 125 gallon. My tanks are on carpet, so sliding them was not an option in my opinion.

I drained the tank into a large rubbermaid can, got some friends to help me move it (about 30 feet away) - put a submersible pump into the bottom of the rubbermaid, and filled it up as much as possible, topped it off with fresh water.

It was a successful move, fish and tank survived! Hope this helps.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 07:39:43 AM
Thanks! I had not thought of that. Probably because I do not have a submersible pump. I may know someone that does though...
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Regalblue on January 15, 2013, 08:40:58 AM
There's no need to save the old water, all your BB will be in the media & substrate. 

As far as not wanting to catch all the fish -  once you drain most of the water out, you can just grab them by hand.
As far as not keeping the fish in buckets - tough :P
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Marty on January 15, 2013, 08:43:31 AM
Go to Walmart or Target and get a couple of those 15 gallon laundry totes so you can save half of your water.  They're usually about $5 each and come in handy for short term projects like this.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: linuxrulesusa on January 15, 2013, 08:46:42 AM
Probably was a bad idea, but last summer I moved my 29 high across the room on furniture movers about 1/3 full with fish still in it.  Would I do it again now?  Probably not.  And probably not with a 60 gallon.  But, it is an option of sorts.  :)  I did have it on the furniture movers to begin with, and it was on an iron stand, not wood. 

I like the drain into a big Rubbermaid can and then siphon back into the tank idea.  Granted most of the good bacteria will be in the substrate/filter, but I still like to transfer some of the water back in since the fish are used to it.  Though if I had a big tub for aging water or was better at matching temperature 100% exactly, this would likely be a non-issue.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 09:35:28 AM
All Good Ideas. I moved this same tank and group of fish into a different house about 3 months ago all by myself and it wasn't easy but not difficult. I'm just searching for a options, opinions, ideas to the way I did id that time. I'm going to have to move furniture and maybe paint during this process, I am thinking. If I'm gonna do it I may as well do it right. I DO NOT like painting!
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: gcalvus on January 15, 2013, 09:46:32 AM
Chuck give me a holler if you need help most of my days are free
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 10:33:06 AM
Chuck give me a holler if you need help most of my days are free
Thanks Gary!
I may take up up on that.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: JeffroM on January 15, 2013, 10:57:27 AM
Those furniture sliding discs work great, but even with 99% of the water removed I think it would be so heavy that those discs would leave marks in the hardwood.  Don't try that IMO.

I'm surprised no one has suggested the "best" method...  You need a 3rd tank.  Buy another tank.  Set it up.  Move fish from 60 to the new tank.  Move 60 gallon out of the way.  Paint and whatever else you want to do.  Set up 60 and 100 gal tanks.  Move fish from 3rd tank into 100 gal.  Now you have 2 empty tanks to play with.  Sounds like a win / win / win situation to me.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: danielratti on January 15, 2013, 11:20:32 AM
^ he may very well be on to something
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 11:43:49 AM
Buy another tank.  Set it up.  Move fish from 60 to the new tank.  Move 60 gallon out of the way.  Paint and whatever else you want to do.  Set up 60 and 100 gal tanks.  Move fish from 3rd tank into 100 gal.  Now you have 2 empty tanks to play with.  Sounds like a win / win / win situation to me.
I actually did think of this, briefly. In fact Rich even offered to loan me a tank.Thing is, I have space issues. Amongst others. ;D
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
Actually Jeff,

Now that I've thought about it. That's a darn good idea! I don't know why I'm surprised.  ::) Do any of my close personal fish keeping pals have anything along the lines of a 40L or a 55 and stand I could borrow for a short period of time? I'm kind of OCD when it come to my tanks so it shouldn't take too long. Although there is the painting, yuk!
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: RichE on January 15, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
Actually Jeff,

Now that I've thought about it. That's a darn good idea! I don't know why I'm surprised.  ::) Do any of my close personal fish keeping pals have anything along the lines of a 40L or a 55 and stand I could borrow for a short period of time? I'm kind of OCD when it come to my tanks so it shouldn't take too long. Although there is the painting, yuk!

I have a 55 gallon I can "loan you" along with a submersible pump, no stand tho and you can use it as long as needed.

Just let me know, my rental fee's are rather low ;D Joking
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: gcalvus on January 15, 2013, 02:06:41 PM
Chuck my son just moved his 50 gal with stand into his garage you can use. Oh by the way
his looking to sell it.The stand is wood with 2 doors if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 03:15:27 PM
$ is kinda tight Gary, but how much does he want for it?
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: gcalvus on January 15, 2013, 03:29:24 PM
you can use it for a couple of days if you need to I'll see what he wants for it
most likely 100 or obo
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 04:52:10 PM
Yeah, let me know Gary.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 05:03:30 PM
Well, I've already started. I moved my cd collection out of the way. Those of you that know me well, know what an under taking that was. I also moved the new tank, stand (which may need some mods. Sir Bailey) plus 5 buckets and 4 boxes of stuff out of my truck and into the garage. Tomorrow I may move the entertainment center and go look at paint. I'm just going to paint one wall, it shouldn't be that bad, right.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: danielratti on January 15, 2013, 05:16:04 PM
What are CDs?
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 05:48:13 PM
What are CDs?
Compact Discs. I should have counted them when I moved them, cuz people always want to know how many there are. All I know is that I pale in comparison to a friend of mine that has over 8000 (not a typo) in his personal collection. They are filed alphabetically by artist and chronologically within each artist (so, are mine for the most part). So Led Zeppelin 1,2,3, etc. for example are all right next to each other. Btw his entire collection is hard rock and metal. He also has about 4-5000 (again, not a typo), that he travels with to sell at shows and conventions. Again, stored alphabetical and chronological. It's quite impressive.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: danielratti on January 15, 2013, 07:14:20 PM
And that is why I download my music. Thats crazy
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 15, 2013, 07:43:05 PM
Ah yes, but some of the stuff he has you can't download.  I did a rough estimate of my collection, it's approximately 500. My friend would probably say something like, "that's a good start".   I really need to get some Rolling Stones.
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: GrizzlysDad on January 15, 2013, 07:59:17 PM
Ah yes, but some of the stuff he has you can't download.  I did a rough estimate of my collection, it's approximately 500. My friend would probably say something like, "that's a good start".   I really need to get some Rolling Stones.

OMG!!! I'm sorry Chuck, but even with approximately 500 CD's you cannot call it a "collection" without having any

ROLLING STONES!!!!!

And here is the "smiley" Stone  :P
Title: Re: How to do this?
Post by: Helloitsme on January 16, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
Yes Tony, I know. I'm going to rectify that real soon. In fact right after my last post I called my friend to see when and where the next record show was. I'm a fan of all 3 stones eras (Jones, Taylor and Wood). I think I'm going to start  with Black and Blue for sure. I might  get Goats Head Soup as well. There's a couple of other artists I am lacking in too. Those being Iggy and the Stooges and Bowie. Then there's all this "new metal" I'm getting turned on to. What to do, what to do...,