I thought you were going with 5,000 Tutti-fruity tetras???????/
I'd be Leary of the Pikes with the AroWhy?
I thought you were going with 5,000 Tutti-fruity tetras???????/Tony, you're all the Tutti-Fruity I need. :P
Seriously, will the Discus be ok in there? I don't know much about them but sounds like an aggressive tank...Discus are usually fine with rays. However an occasional ray will like to kill discus and bite their face off. Discus are fine with arrowana. I had some discus in with a 22" Silver Arrowana once without problem. My big concern for the discus would be the pikes or bass. Simply don't know. Hoping someone has experience with those combinations.
Seriously, will the Discus be ok in there? I don't know much about them but sounds like an aggressive tank...Discus are usually fine with rays. However an occasional ray will like to kill discus and bite their face off. Discus are fine with arrowana. I had some discus in with a 22" Silver Arrowana once without problem. My big concern for the discus would be the pikes or bass. Simply don't know. Hoping someone has experience with those combinations.
It's not what I would do, but it's not my tank! I'd like to see it when it's done though...Agreed
Yes, that's probably more along the lines of what I would do. Thanks Jeff, now you've got me thinking...It's not what I would do, but it's not my tank! I'd like to see it when it's done though...Agreed
IMO full biotope would be the way to roll.
I think that if you gave the pikes a pvc tube or clay drain tile, they might be aggressive about defending that, but I don't know that they would bully everyone in the tank. Mine (both species) tend to hang out on the bottom.I still think once they see the Aro above them gobbling up food, they are gonna hit it hard
I have frontosa in with my pikes and they get to the food faster than my pikes do. I would recommend feeding sinking food so everyone has a chance to eat.
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So where's our resident Pike expert?He's ignoring me and my posts after I suggested he should go collect some Obama Darters. ;D
Northern Pike? I can tell you a little about them, I used to fish for them LOLI have frontosa in with my pikes and they get to the food faster than my pikes do. I would recommend feeding sinking food so everyone has a chance to eat.
So where's our resident Pike expert?
It definitely sounds like a cool tank. Looking forward to seeing it come about...Don't hold your breath too long. Fishroom progess is moving very slowly...
I have about a 22inch Jardini arrow and hes super mean. Maybe I just have a guy with a an attitude, but I don't see how the discus would make it long at all. when he was 15inchs or so he killed large hand size tinfoils, at 18inchs he tried to kill 2 blue channel cats that were about the same size... The cats would just hang out on the bottom in a tube or something and he would just go down and bite the crap out of them leaving them scared and bleeding, around the same time he also decide the other tank mate an Oscar was time to go.. He now tries to eat my 90pound dog threw the glass every time the do walk by. He will also bite at the glass if I hold his thawed shrimp in front of the glass, taunting him.Jardini are completely different. Much more aggressive. I've kept a large Silver Arrowana with Discus and had zero problems. I have no concerns about a Black / Blue Arrowana with Discus. Only real concerns are pikes and bass. Pikes might be okay. Starting to realize bass probably won't work.
BTW on that stocklist the discus would be the least expensive by far.Gotcha. Had no idea they would be the least expensive.
I had other catfish suggestions for you last night but all of the other exotics I have kept would grow too large and eat everything on your proposed stock list :oYea.... I'm not too interested in giant catfish.
A couple Gulper cats would work nicely. Make short work of them tutti-fruity tetrasI've seen a video of a gulper cat eating a fish the same size as itself. I think I'll pass. ;)
The Atabapo I pikes would do fine if introduced at the same time as the other fish. Their aggression is more intra-specific and they aren't tough on other similar-sized fish. As long as they all have plenty of room, as in a 500 gallon tank, they will do fine. (I have an extra M/F pair of the Atabapo I's if you're interested.)So your saying I should redesign the room and put in 2 500 gallon aquariums?
The discus might have stress issues with the aggression levels of the other fish, as well as trouble competing for sufficient foods. Discus prefer to graze off of the bottom, so the activities of the other fish might keep them moving too much to feed properly.
Otherwise, the combination of the predators sound good. I really like the tigrinus cat.
Why not keep a separate tank with the discus with the Tutti-Fruity tetras?
Mike Z.
I just had a major epiphany....
I just had a major epiphany....
I think they have medications for that now a days.
Now that wasn't very nice, was it? So for that, I'm taking my football and going home. >:(Should we start calling you Cartman? LOL.
Did you see the 2,900 gallon acrylic tank on Aquabid? 14' long by 7' deep by 4' tall. Double Bull-Nose, viewable from 360 degees, and only $29,000.LMAO. How do you get that tank inside your house? Smallest dimension is 4' so you need a wide door. Next smallest is 7' so it needs a taller than normal door too. Or you can just knock a wall out. LOL
Now THAT's a Wish List item. I presented it as an indoor snorkeling pool for my wife...the wordless expression I received in return was Priceless.
Mike Z.
Did you see the 2,900 gallon acrylic tank on Aquabid? 14' long by 7' deep by 4' tall. Double Bull-Nose, viewable from 360 degees, and only $29,000.
Now THAT's a Wish List item. I presented it as an indoor snorkeling pool for my wife...the wordless expression I received in return was Priceless.
Mike Z.
Did you see the 2,900 gallon acrylic tank on Aquabid? 14' long by 7' deep by 4' tall. Double Bull-Nose, viewable from 360 degees, and only $29,000.
Now THAT's a Wish List item. I presented it as an indoor snorkeling pool for my wife...the wordless expression I received in return was Priceless.
Mike Z.
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Any up dates Jeff ? pics? I wana see! ( And I thought I was cool with my 350) oh well there is always someone with something bigger and badder then you gotI haven't bought it yet. Still working on the room. I just ordered all the 10gal to 50gal tanks for the room. I have a couple 120's and a 240 that I'll be using in the room. Then I need to order the 500 and look for a 180 and a 150 (6'x2' footprint) on the used market as I'm too cheap to pay for new ones of those.
I'm probably going to order the tank from Aquatica, a store outside of Cleveland. I'm driving through Cleveland in a couple weeks so I figured I would stop in then and try to work out the details.
Is that the place you and Blair checked out while we were in Cleveland this past November?Yes. I believe you where there when I spoke to the owner of the store in the lobby of the hotel.
Is that the place you and Blair checked out while we were in Cleveland this past November?Yes. I believe you where there when I spoke to the owner of the store in the lobby of the hotel.
Yes, Tony was there. IIRC we were talking about the way online stores kill mom&pop shops. ;)LOL. Thanks for reminding me.
we were talking about the way online stores kill mom&pop shops. ;)