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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Regalblue on December 19, 2012, 10:05:32 AM

Title: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Regalblue on December 19, 2012, 10:05:32 AM
Holy crap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DN8vfGJLaA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Ron on December 19, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
Probably a case of mistaken identity since he had on that silly hat/hood.  :P

I'm not too surprised. Those eagles are huge and used to hunt coyotes/jackels in some locations. Anyone with a small pet or livestock is aware of what avian predators can do. I had a variety of hawks staring down the chickens I raised this past spring.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: danielratti on December 19, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
When I use to have cickens and ducks the hawks and owls were always picking stuff off. The cop that I would get ducks and chcikens from actually said its ok to shoot them if they are killing animals.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: jkeeler on December 19, 2012, 03:55:30 PM
Holy crap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DN8vfGJLaA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

cool video, but fake

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/19/massive-eagle-snatches-unsusepcting-toddler-off-the-ground-and-carries-it-in-the-air/
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Ron on December 19, 2012, 04:06:43 PM
When I use to have cickens and ducks the hawks and owls were always picking stuff off. The cop that I would get ducks and chcikens from actually said its ok to shoot them if they are killing animals.
My understanding is that is a federal offense. You might want to speak to a DNR officer before you try to do that.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: danielratti on December 19, 2012, 04:25:49 PM
That's what I thought too. I originally went to school to be DNR but waiting list was like a mile too long for me. I never shot anything besides a fox and a coyote. I think those do more damage then big birds of prey.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: mightieskeeper on December 19, 2012, 05:59:48 PM
Ron the federal law says it is illegal to shot predatory birds.  The state of michigan has a farm livestock protection law that says any predatories can be shot if attacking livestock.  Pretty crazy confusion! Lol
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Regalblue on December 19, 2012, 07:57:57 PM
Holy crap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DN8vfGJLaA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

cool video, but fake

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/19/massive-eagle-snatches-unsusepcting-toddler-off-the-ground-and-carries-it-in-the-air/

yeah, I found that out after posting on multiple forums.  :(
 Thanks though
Ron the federal law says it is illegal to shot predatory birds.  The state of michigan has a farm livestock protection law that says any predatories can be shot if attacking livestock.  Pretty crazy confusion! Lol
lol imagine that.... The governments confusing people&  you not being sure which one is trump.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Steve on December 19, 2012, 10:59:05 PM
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lol imagine that.... The governments confusing people&  you not being sure which one is trump.

To make it even more confusing.....I would put pretty good odds on betting that protected/endangered species such as Bald Eagles here in Michigan would for sure be exempt of any livestock protection law that lets you shoot them.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: GrizzlysDad on December 19, 2012, 11:19:11 PM
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lol imagine that.... The governments confusing people&  you not being sure which one is trump.

To make it even more confusing.....I would put pretty good odds on betting that protected/endangered species such as Bald Eagles here in Michigan would for sure be exempt of any livestock protection law that lets you shoot them.

If I recall, where Bald Eagles are concerned they are 100% out of bounds regardless of what they are doing since they are our National Bird. I believe I've read that it is even illegal to possess a feather from a Bald Eagle even if you find it on the ground.
The exception may be for Native Americans in possession of eagle feathers which I totally agree with.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: danielratti on December 19, 2012, 11:31:32 PM
With certain licensing you can possess bald eagle feathers. Anyone who possesses an eagle feather and doesn't meet the requirements, could face fines up to $100,000 and a year in prison. A second offense is upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony, and carries a maximum penalty of two years in prison and a $250,000 fine. The act also provides for a civil penalty of up to $5,000.

This year a Indian tribe actually got a permit to kill an eagle actually. It was kinda odd hearing about it I might be wrong but I think it is the same tribe that had a member arrest for killing a eagle illegally a few years back.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: GrizzlysDad on December 19, 2012, 11:42:11 PM
With certain licensing you can possess bald eagle feathers. Anyone who possesses an eagle feather and doesn't meet the requirements, could face fines up to $100,000 and a year in prison. A second offense is upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony, and carries a maximum penalty of two years in prison and a $250,000 fine. The act also provides for a civil penalty of up to $5,000.

This year a Indian tribe actually got a permit to kill an eagle actually. It was kinda odd hearing about it I might be wrong but I think it is the same tribe that had a member arrest for killing a eagle illegally a few years back.

No offense but I would never take anyone's word on this type of subject, nor would I take the copy-and-pasting of a regulation (not that you did this). I would want to read it in the actual document after being given to me by an actual official from the DNR or U.S. Fish and Wildlife.
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: danielratti on December 19, 2012, 11:45:34 PM
I got it out of my books for school I think every state is different though. Its actually penal code 16 U.S.C. 668(a); 50 CFR 22.

Here it is in writing from Fish and Wildlife.
http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/protect/laws.html
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Regalblue on December 19, 2012, 11:46:51 PM
With certain licensing you can possess bald eagle feathers. Anyone who possesses an eagle feather and doesn't meet the requirements, could face fines up to $100,000 and a year in prison. A second offense is upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony, and carries a maximum penalty of two years in prison and a $250,000 fine. The act also provides for a civil penalty of up to $5,000.

This year a Indian tribe actually got a permit to kill an eagle actually. It was kinda odd hearing about it I might be wrong but I think it is the same tribe that had a member arrest for killing a eagle illegally a few years back.

No offense but I would never take anyone's word on this type of subject, nor would I take the copy-and-pasting of a regulation (not that you did this). I would want to read it in the actual document after being given to me by an actual official from the DNR or U.S. Fish and Wildlife.
but but  but Tony,  it's alright if you're going to eat it. :P 
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: GrizzlysDad on December 19, 2012, 11:50:01 PM
With certain licensing you can possess bald eagle feathers. Anyone who possesses an eagle feather and doesn't meet the requirements, could face fines up to $100,000 and a year in prison. A second offense is upgraded from a misdemeanor to a felony, and carries a maximum penalty of two years in prison and a $250,000 fine. The act also provides for a civil penalty of up to $5,000.

This year a Indian tribe actually got a permit to kill an eagle actually. It was kinda odd hearing about it I might be wrong but I think it is the same tribe that had a member arrest for killing a eagle illegally a few years back.

No offense but I would never take anyone's word on this type of subject, nor would I take the copy-and-pasting of a regulation (not that you did this). I would want to read it in the actual document after being given to me by an actual official from the DNR or U.S. Fish and Wildlife.
but but  but Tony,  it's alright if you're going to eat it. :P

Or if I read it on the internet....because they can't put it on the internet if it isn't true  ;D
BTW, my date for the Doomsday Bacon Eating Party at my house is a French model....I met her on the internet  8)
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
Bonjour!
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: GrizzlysDad on December 20, 2012, 12:04:29 AM
Bonjour!


{insert thumbs up smiley for the fastest appropriate response}
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Super Turtleman on December 21, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
Video might be fake, but I imagine it could happen. I remember a Bald Eagle circling over my back yard while my year old daughter was playing. I was watching it thinking "I bet it could lift her away without too much trouble..."
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: auratus on December 21, 2012, 07:49:17 PM
Oh, it thought it said eagle grabs CICHLID I was really concerned but it was just a child so now I am releived.   : ) 
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: danielratti on December 21, 2012, 07:56:02 PM
HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Super Turtleman on December 23, 2012, 03:28:13 AM
Oh, it thought it said eagle grabs CICHLID I was really concerned but it was just a child so now I am releived.   : )

BAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Eagle grabs child
Post by: Regalblue on December 23, 2012, 06:20:06 AM
Oh, it thought it said eagle grabs CICHLID I was really concerned but it was just a child so now I am releived.   : ) 
LMAO!  Good one Ken