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General Category => Old World => Topic started by: danielratti on October 04, 2012, 08:35:32 PM

Title: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 04, 2012, 08:35:32 PM
Has anyone on here had and experience with nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus? I've kept nimbochromis before and they were just so mean it was stupid and was wondering if these were any different? I've read that they are hit and miss with aggression and might be reclassified eventually. I think they are pretty good looking fish but just don't know if they carry the good nimbochromis trait of killing everything.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Regalblue on October 05, 2012, 12:03:56 AM
I kept a single male about 8yrs ago. I have also kept Livingstoni,  Polystigma&  bred Venustus.

IMO the Livingstoni, Polystigma&  Venustus can NOT touch the Fusco's aggression.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 05, 2012, 06:26:09 AM
What out of all of those was the least aggressive. I've seen a couple nice stoni and and venustus but when I had a venustus like 5 years ago he would be fine one day then next day he would be the shit out of everything and killing fish twice the size of him. I might just avoid nimbochromis completly.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Ron on October 05, 2012, 07:07:40 AM
What out of all of those was the least aggressive. I've seen a couple nice stoni and and venustus but when I had a venustus like 5 years ago he would be fine one day then next day he would be the shit out of everything and killing fish twice the size of him. I might just avoid nimbochromis completly.
What size tank are you trying to keep them in? Often in the cichlid world I think people just try to keep certain species in too small of a tank and they get an exceptionally bad rap as a result.

IMO, polystigma or linni are probably the least aggressive, but they are still need at least a 6' tank long term. Averaging all of the large livingstonii and venustus I've kept, I'd say that they are about the same aggression level, but occasionally you might find a bad apple.

As for N. fuscotaeniatus - IMO they aren't really a Nimbochromis at all and if they still are I'd be really curious to know the reasoning. A while back I recall some discussion of moving them to a different genus, as the only part of them that fits well in Nimbochromis is the patterning, while the rest would be a better fit in Tyrannochromis.

I've kept two males in the past and have a third one currently. They have all been much more aggressive than Nimbochromis I've kept, so based on your comments I'd suggest passing and looking at a different species instead.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 05, 2012, 11:34:12 AM
It would be going in my 180 after I thin out my long pelvics. If I could find a polystigma or a linni I'd be willing to try one out since its such a big tank. I was also pondering the idea of doing a big group of foso's but not sure how well that would fly.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Ron on October 05, 2012, 01:24:52 PM
I was also pondering the idea of doing a big group of foso's but not sure how well that would fly.
IME, fossies play much nicer than any Nimbochromis. The one caveat is if you want more than a single male among the group, it's best if they grew up in the same tank together.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 05, 2012, 06:22:06 PM
Would I still have to watch the males to see if they get to aggressive to the other fish and would the possibiity of cross breeding still happen
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Rob S on October 05, 2012, 07:35:35 PM
I agree with Ron. I'm a big fan of the entire genus and Fosso's---
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 05, 2012, 08:19:07 PM
Will I have problems with the male being super aggressive though because he has some females to show off to or even cross breeding
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Rob S on October 05, 2012, 09:11:58 PM
I've bred Fosso's in a 6 ft. tank with other fish in there too. When the male got fired up he pushed everyone around but never to the point of killing other fish or really harming anyone.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Ron on October 05, 2012, 09:17:37 PM
I agree with Ron. I'm a big fan of the entire genus and Fosso's---
I should get an updated photo of the group I've got currently. I passed off my group to Staples a while back, then missed them so much I picked up a big'un off Silverside a while back. He's at least 9"+ right now.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 05, 2012, 09:38:51 PM
Well I might add five more tomorrow since I pulled all my acei and galleria reefs but the original 2
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 06, 2012, 12:29:41 PM
I figured 6 was going to be pushing it for the fosos so I only added 3 so now I have four. Not sure on the sex but we will see
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 10, 2012, 08:19:35 PM
I was told the fosos are slow growers I think mine are the opposite they seem to be getting bigger and bigger everyday and now my black fin lethernops is even looking better with less mbuna in the tank. I guess I wasn't the only one stressed out by them.
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: Ron on October 10, 2012, 09:33:50 PM
I think the fossies get the "slow grower" label because they get big and it takes a while for them to start breeding, where as a variety of other haps will spawn at a smaller size (say 4" vs 5"-6").

IMO, it's best keeping haps separate from mbuna. When I started out 12-14 years ago I kept a mixed tank. After 3-4 years I had enough bigger tanks to split them up and liked the results. Since then I've rarely mixed them once they reach 3"+. (In growout tanks I often mix them at 1/1 because it's easier to separate vastly different colored fry! It's simply silver fish vs colored instead of separating silver haps from silver haps and colored mbuna from colored mbuna.  ;D
Title: Re: nimbochromis fuscotaeniatus
Post by: danielratti on October 10, 2012, 09:59:35 PM
Right I only normally keep one kind of mbuna in my tank he works in a way or curving the aggression. Before I had red top hongi and now zebra long pelvics.